About Tammie Southerland

Tammie Southerland is a wife, mother of three, author, revival forerunner, prophetic messenger, and fiery lover of Jesus. Tammie is the heart of Frontline Ministries and founder and director of The FireHouse Prayer Furnace, and Burning Ones Academy. She is ministerally covered by Billy Humphrey, Director of The International House of Prayer- Atlanta. Tammie is a passionate fighter for the consecrated Bride of Christ to arise with boldness and wonder of her Bridegroom Jesus -in these last days!

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Burning Messengers Podcast

Break Free: A Tale of Spiritual Deliverance with Jake Kail

Join me and my good friend Jake Hale as we share our experiences of deliverance, exploring its importance and the need for more of it in the body of Christ. We discuss Jake’s powerful personal story of being delivered from demons and how God’s compassion is moving within this ministry. While we touch on the issues that arise when people build their own platforms, our conversation is grounded in our shared belief in the power of God to set people free.

Our conversation further ventures into the significance of prophetic purity in ministry and how to maintain it. Together, we explore the delicate balance between public ministry and private devotion, and how neglecting the latter can lead to disaster. We discuss the importance of staying rooted in our identity in Christ, so that ministry does not become our identity. Jake, an apostolic leader in Pennsylvania, offers valuable insights into the emergence of God’s messengers and the beginnings of revival.

We delve into the potential dangers when the enemy exploits the power of God’s sons and daughters for personal gain, expressing our shared grief when something so holy and intimate is used for malicious purposes. Our conversation serves as a reminder of the need to stay alert to the enemy’s schemes and that God longs to set his people free. Whether you’re called to prophetic ministry or simply seeking a deeper understanding of deliverance, Jake’s insights, grounded in humility and compassion, are sure to inspire. Don’t miss his powerful prayer for deliverance and a deeper revelation of Jesus.

Where to dive in:

(0:00:00) – The Power of Deliverance

Jake and I discussed God’s power to set us free, deliverance in the body of Christ, and potential issues of self-promotion.

(0:09:21) – Maintaining Purity and Humility in Ministry

Jake and I discuss prophetic purity, public/private devotion, blessing/brokenness, and staying hungry for God.

(0:23:10) – The Importance of Compassion and Humility

God’s power, enemy’s schemes, prophetic word, and Spirit’s grief discussed to remain alert and free.

(0:33:09) – Staying Rooted and Trusting the Lord

Jake encourages trust in the Lord, staying rooted in identity in Christ, and revival, for God’s purpose and glory.

About the guest:

Jake Kail is a pastor, author and conference speaker who is passionate about living without shadows in a culture of compromise. Jake and his family live in Lancaster, PA where he serves as lead pastor of Threshold Church.

About the host:

Tammie Southerland is the host of Burning Messengers and the author of Permission To Bur: Breaking the Chains of Compromise from a Holy Generation. She is also a speaker and prophetic minister. She releases the sound authentic of revival and messages from heaven as she travels. Her lifestyle is one of prayer and digging deep into the Word of God, her desire is to releasing the Heart of The Father in these last days. She moves in power ministry and is known for releasing the Matthew 3:11“baptism of Holy Fire” as she goes. ⁠

Buy Tammie’s Book “Permission to Burn: Breaking the Chains of Compromise from a Holy Generation” here⁠: ⁠https://a.co/d/cznvVYK

Transcript

0:00:00 – Tammie Southerland
It’s such an important concept, jake, that we understand, even within our own heart, that we can open the door for the enemy to come in and distract us and turn us away from that place of hunger and that place of longing and that place of brokenness. And for me it’s such an important prayer I guess that I pray on a daily basis that he keep me humble, because it’s walking in that place of anointing and blessing that actually should cause us to realize how much it’s not about us. You know how much of it is his anointing. It’s not about me, it’s not me, it’s him, and I mean I just think that’s such a significant thing. Demonic deliverance. Today I’m going to talk with my good friend, Jake Kail, about his story of being delivered from demons, and he and I are going to get into a conversation about why God is moving in this ministry from the place of compassion. We’re going to talk about why we need to see it more in the body of Christ, but we’re also going to talk about why there’s maybe a problem with it, with people building their own platforms. If you guys need to see deliverance in your church or in your ministry, maybe you need to have deliverance for yourself.

This is a podcast that you want to be a part of. Hey guys, so glad you are back with us for the Burning Messengers podcast. I’m so excited. Today I have a friend of mine with me. His name is Jake Kail. He is a powerful man of God, not just in what he does in ministry, but who he is as a father, who he is as a leader and as a pastor, but, most of all, who he is as a son of God. He is a leader, an apostolic leader in Pennsylvania over his local church, and he’s also has a lot of equipping ministry that he does in the area of deliverance through podcasts and different types of things like that. Jake, thank you so much for being a part of this with us. Thank you for jumping onto this podcast.

0:02:19 – Jake Kail
Yeah, tammy, thanks so much. It’s great to be here. Look forward to this conversation. I’m sure it’s going to be a great conversation, thanks.

0:02:25 – Tammie Southerland
Absolutely Well, jake, tell us a little bit about yourself. I’d like to know. You know just who is Jake Kail? I know, but can you let everybody else know who are you? What’s a little bit of your story? How did you find yourself where you are right now?

0:02:40 – Jake Kail
Yeah, so just a kind of a quick version. I mean, I grew up in a great Christian family hearing about the gospel, hearing about Jesus, but when I was 19 years old really had a true encounter with God. It was a deep work of repentance, encountering God’s love, and I was dramatically set free from the power of sin, different bondages to sin, and it just kind of propelled me into a just a deep walk with the Lord, hungering for him, devouring his word, and just kind of progressed from that over the last 20 years. And, yeah, I’m married to my wife Anna, we have three amazing kids, live in Pennsylvania, and so, yeah, I’m helping to lead a church here as well and do some, some writing, some speaking, some traveling, and so, yeah, I just have a heart for for God, have a heart for the presence of God, know who more to advance this kingdom, and a real passion to see other people set free and just delivered from all types of depression, oppression, bondage, torment, and so, yeah, just a quick, quick snapshot there.

0:03:36 – Tammie Southerland
Yeah, and so deliverance is a real passion of yours, because you personally experience deliverance and and you share about that a lot in your podcast in different areas. Just an understanding of this is a personal thing for you, and so tell us a little bit. Like what were you set free from? What did, what did God do in the area of deliverance for you personally?

0:03:57 – Jake Kail
Yeah, so, so yeah, when I was in middle school, I got exposed to pornography for the first time, just as from a classmate, and it just really planted a seed of sexual immorality and lust, perversion, and so I was drawn into sexual sin. I was also drawn into the party lifestyle drinking alcohol, partying, and you know, this whole time I would have considered myself a believer but was just really not really walking with the Lord. I was very deceived and I was in bondage to sin. And so, yeah, when I was 19, and I had this encounter I mean, it was a deep work of repentance, like I said earlier, but I was also dramatically set free and pornography was broken from my life. It was never a problem, ever again.

Just even the thoughts and all that, all that goes with that, just dramatically set free from that, and then also just the desire to drink and go party and get drunk, just yeah, also anger and anger issues and so, yeah, like so much of that, all that was just broken off of my life in this encounter with God. And so, like you said, I just became really passionate for other people to experience freedom. Because I experienced this freedom, I knew it was so real and I knew that this is for all of God’s people. Like Jesus wants people free, he paid the price for it. So, yeah, it’s definitely a passion of mine.

0:05:12 – Tammie Southerland
Yeah, and the thing about it is I’m like I have a similar story, a little bit different but similar story how God just literally set me free, delivered me particular bondages that I was wrestling with as a religious person for a really long time, but the power of the Holy Spirit came in and like literally set me free, and I think that’s why it says you know, he who’s forgiven much loves much. And there’s such a compassion, there’s such a passion in us to see others set free because we have been set free and it’s such a beautiful thing. And a lot of times I think we think that behavior modification can change everything, but God comes in by the power of the spirit and, out of compassion, sets us free, and so it’s such a powerful story. Guys, just listen to that.

If you’re even on the fence wondering, you know, is this real, Is it? You know the deliverance has been a big conversation lately. Is it real? How is God moving? He shares a lot and I actually just listened to one of his podcasts about the purity behind deliverance and how God is moving in this way. Jake, how does prayer shape your life and what does prayer have to do with moving in the power of God?

0:06:25 – Jake Kail
Yeah, I mean it’s all connected. I mean prayer. I mean early on in my walk with the Lord, God really highlighted to me that I need to become a person of prayer. I need to make that a top priority. I need to learn how to pray, spend time alone with the Lord in the secret place, and that’s the model we see of Jesus.

In Mark, chapter one, we see him doing all this ministry. He’s in a synagogue, he’s casting out a demon, All the people are coming, all the crowds are coming. He’s healing people, he’s casting out demons. But then in verse 35, it says early in the morning, before the sun rose, he goes out to a solitary place, all by himself, and there it says he prayed. And I believe that is a secret to the ministry of Jesus is the secret place, and that’s what he taught us in Matthew 6. He said when you pray, go in your room, shut the door, pray to your father in the secret place. And so that really has just become.

You know, early on in my walk became just the most important thing for me. I personally believe that all true ministry flows out of intimacy with God. All true ministry flows from that place, from the secret place, from that private devotion, that place of personal connection with the Lord. I think that’s what allows that fruit to be produced and for it to be done in a healthy, biblical, compassionate way, because our roots are going deep into God himself and then we’re able to just follow his voice and be led by his spirit. But it comes from that place of relationship and intimacy with the Lord.

0:07:54 – Tammie Southerland
That’s right. And when you teach on deliverance, when you talk about deliverance, when you function deliverance, one thing that you have said is it’s not an end of itself, right, it’s not something that you’re delivered and then that’s all, and you connect that with the lifestyle of prayer. Can you talk a little bit more about that process of connecting prayer with deliverance? And you know why? Is it not just the demon leaves and we’re good?

0:08:24 – Jake Kail
Yeah, because you know deliverance you know, like you said, they’re like it’s not meant to be an end in and of itself. In other words, it’s meant to propel us into more of God. So it’s not just about getting rid of oppression or torment, as great as that is. I mean, yes, that’s a key component, because if those things are there, if there’s demonic influence in our life, then we can’t seem to move forward, we can’t seem to break free, we can’t seem to grow in our walk with the Lord. But it’s not just about getting free. It’s once we are free, now we’re free to know God more, Now we’re free to grow in holiness, Now we’re free to step into our purpose or walk in our giftings. And so I think it’s really key for deliverance to be connected to discipleship, spiritual growth, prayer and just really. If we keep the relationship with the Lord central and the main focus, I think that’s going to really solve a lot of problems foundationally and that’s going to keep us on a good track in this whole area.

0:09:21 – Tammie Southerland
Absolutely. Do you think that in our current state, our up and coming emerging voices and even our age group of ministers, do you think we have a current state where we are maybe teetering a little bit off on the wrong side, is God trying to bring us back into a place of purity? What does that look like for us right now?

0:09:44 – Jake Kail
Yeah, I mean, I think there’s always the opportunity for corruption to come in to any kind of area of ministry. So, whether it’s deliverance, whether it’s the prophetic or other areas, we have to always make sure we are recalibrating to the heart of God and we are just keeping our roots deep into him. And so, yeah, I do think that sometimes different things might creep in to different areas of ministry, including deliverance, where sometimes it becomes more of a spectacle, or sometimes we make it about us as the minister. Right, I always say deliverance is a ministry of compassion for the oppressed. It’s not meant to be about me as a minister. It’s not meant to be about the demons.

Although we have to address and cast out the demons, we shouldn’t be demon centered with deliverance. We should be Christ centered with deliverance and we should be compassionate towards the people. So, yeah, sometimes I get, you know, concerned that maybe we could veer off a little bit and they can become more of a spectacle, more about the one ministering. And so, yeah, I just have a heart to see a pure expression, that we keep it biblical. We don’t have to deviate into all kinds of other things that are outside of scripture. We can just keep it with the scripture. We can keep it compassionate, we can keep it centered on Jesus, focused on him, pointing people to him, and I think that’s going to help to see yeah, keep us where we need to be.

0:11:01 – Tammie Southerland
Yeah, so you talk a little bit about prophetic purity in ministry too. So we’re talking about different power manifestations. We’re also talking about the gifts of the spirit, and you and I have something in common that’s very strong and common it’s prayer and purity, those two words in when we’re talking about. You know, this is the burning messengers podcast. We’re talking about equipping messengers. How can we stay in the place where we’re tender before the Lord and we have prophetic purity and we have purity in our as we move in the power of God? How can we keep ourself in that place and not find ourselves like those whom he said he never knew, you know, even though they moved in the power gifts or they moved in the five full gifts?

0:11:48 – Jake Kail
Yes, that’s a great question. It’s a very important question. I think there’s some simple I mean there’s not necessarily a formula, but I think there’s some keys and I think that if we will prioritize the secret place, I think that’s going to be a huge, huge key. So it goes back to what I said earlier. You know, jesus had a balance of public ministry and private devotion and he balanced that out. We see that in Luke five, I think it’s verse 15 and 16. It says all the crowds were coming to hear him teach to be healed of their diseases, and it says so he often withdrew from the crowds to pray.

He made it a regular practice, and I think what can happen sometimes is is if we are growing in ministry, we’re growing in our calling, and especially in this area of supernatural ministry, whenever we’re moving in the power of God, it’s going to attract the attention of people, and so it can be dangerous if we have an expanding public influence but we have a shrinking private devotion. That is a recipe for disaster. That’s gonna. That’s gonna veer us off track. And so if we have to fight to keep the secret place, the number one thing, that’s gonna go a long way in keeping us on track If we will fight to keep the secret place as the main, as that main thing. I think that’s a huge part of maintaining an atmosphere of purity, an expression of purity in all these areas of ministry. I think that’s so, so key. I mean, there’s obviously other areas. Something that the Lord was really showing me earlier is that we have to see a marriage between blessing and brokenness.

Those two are actually supposed to go together. And I saw this in Mark, chapter six, when Jesus was feeding the 5,000, it says he took the bread, he blessed it and he broke it. And for me that blessing represents God’s anointing, god’s empowerment, and that brokenness, to me, speaks of humility, speaks of compassion, speaks of dependence on the Lord. And if we walk in the blessing of God but we resist that process of brokenness, then that could get us on the wrong track as well, because we’re operating in power and God can give genuine gifts and we could walk in those gifts. But then what do we do with that? Will we yield to this process of allowing that humility, that dependence on him and just really keeping the focus on Jesus, really just keeping it on him and being intentional to humble ourselves and to point people to the Lord? But yeah, just marrying those two blessing and brokenness being married together, I think is just such an essential thing right now.

0:14:21 – Tammie Southerland
Wow, that’s so powerful Blessing and brokenness. And it says that blessed are the broken, for theirs is the kingdom. And everywhere you see the move of God in Scripture, everywhere you see the move of power in the New Testament it says the kingdom of heaven has come near, or the kingdom of heaven is here, or the kingdom of God is here, and so it’s blessed are the broken. That it’s that humility that actually makes way for the power of the kingdom to come and be manifest. And it’s such an important concept, jake, that we understand, even within our own heart, that we can open the door for the enemy to come in and distract us and turn us away from that place of hunger and that place of longing and that place of brokenness. And for me it’s such an important prayer, I guess, that I pray on a daily basis that he keep me humble, because it’s walking in that place of anointing and blessing. That actually should cause us to realize how much it’s not about us, how much of it it is his anointing. It’s not about me, it’s not me, it’s him, and I mean I just think that’s such a significant thing.

So we talk a lot. You have the Taurus Bearers podcast, this is the Burning Messengers podcast. We’re talking about equipping, we’re talking about raising up messengers at the end of the age, and we’re talking about this blessing and this anointing. We’re also talking about humility. How can we give those that maybe are coming up right now some real personal keys to keep humility at the forefront? How can they know if they’re beginning to turn towards a place where it is becoming a prideful gift or moving maybe in the wrong spirit?

0:16:28 – Jake Kail
Yeah, yeah, great question. Yeah, I’m just reminded of the Apostle Paul. It’s in 1 Corinthians 2, he said that when he came he wanted to know nothing but Jesus and him crucified. Christ and him crucified. And then, right after that, he said his message and his preaching was not with wise and persuasive words but with a demonstration of the power of God, the Holy Spirit and power. So again, I see a marriage between that brokenness, the cross, and then the power of God. And really Christ is the example. Just meditating on the cross, meditating on who Jesus is. It says in Philippians he lowered himself, he humbled himself first of all, just to come to this earth. God himself took on flesh, but then he also lowered himself to become a servant. And then he took it further and became obedient to death and this horrible, horrific, humiliating death on the cross. And so I think, just if we can maintain that attitude, like Paul said, man, I need to know Jesus, I need to know Jesus and him crucified, and I think that’s going to help us.

And then you know, how do we respond to other people’s praise? How do we respond to other people? It’s great to be encouraged, it’s great to receive compliments right, that’s nothing wrong with that? But how do we respond when you know people praise us because God works through us, or people look to us a certain way because God’s moving, do we feed on that or do we release that to the Lord, right? So you know, if somebody you know, because when God moves through you, people are going to be drawn, people are going to be drawn, people are going to look up to you.

Humans have a tendency to place others on a pedestal and we have to make the choice not to allow ourselves to receive worship, right, and that’s what we see the apostles doing. They tried to worship Paul and he said no, no, no, no, I’m just a person just like you, right, and so. So how do we respond when, when people are praising us, like, do we, do we allow that to feed our ego? Or do we just say, you know, thanks for the compliment? And then we just get to the Lord and we just, you know, we get in that secret place and we say God, it’s all you Like, apart from you, I can do nothing. And we recognize that it’s all because of his grace. We are dependent on him. If we’re walking in gifts, it’s because God gave it to us. If God’s using us, it’s because of his grace and just keeping that mindset. We have to continually remind ourselves of that.

And if we find ourselves starting to feed off of those things in a wrong way, then that’s time to just recalibrate. You know, do some fasting, just coming to God’s presence, and you know, fasting is one of the ways we humble ourselves. The Bible says Right. So, as you know, in Psalms it says I humbled myself with fasting. So, just, you know, finding those disciplines and those ways to maintain that healthy posture.

And then I think another key is having people around us that know us like just in everyday life, that don’t just know us when we’re on a platform preaching or ministering, but you know, like my wife and my kids, or you know my, you know the outer team where I serve, at right, people that I walk with on a daily basis, right, they just they see us for who we are, as real people, and just you know, allowing them to speak into our lives and just, yeah, just not not neglecting just that, that everyday life of just what it means to be a person that has, you know, just flesh, just like everybody else. Yeah, and yeah, not allowing ourselves to get elevated. It’s really key.

0:20:00 – Tammie Southerland
Yeah, it’s funny. I’m thinking about a mutual friend of ours, jeremiah Johnson. He always says you need to keep people around you that aren’t impressed with you. And he and I just back and forth and I’m like I’m that person, you know, in your life. I’m not impressed, but it is so true, you really do. You need to keep people in your life that aren’t necessarily impressed with you, but they are. You know, they see you, they see you day in and day out.

And Bill Johnson said it this way too, about receiving praise. He said that very often, you know, after you preach, after you minister, after God moves through you, people are like, oh, that was so good. And he said Bill said don’t say oh, it was, it was not me, it was God, but say thank you and then when you get into the secret place, go before the Lord and say I believe this belongs to you. You hand that honor right back to the Lord, and so I think that’s a good balance there. It’s like we’re not a worm but we, and we are, you know, his sons and daughters, but man. It’s him moving through us and there’s nothing like fasting and being around. You know people day in and day out that aren’t impressed with you. That’ll remind you. You know how much you do need the grace of God.

0:21:11 – Jake Kail
Amen. Yep, that’s very good, I love that. What you said about Bill Johnson Yep, I think it’s a great, great model, a great way to do that.

0:21:17 – Tammie Southerland
It is. I’ve, you know, personally adopted that for myself, but and I found the pleasure of the Lord comes over me with that as well you know something else I would like to know what are your thoughts on seeing deliverance more predominant in the church? Do you think there’s a lack of deliverance in the church? What are your thoughts on that?

0:21:45 – Jake Kail
Yeah, I mean it’s been interesting because you know I’ve been ministering deliverance for just about 18 years and you know the first 10 years was mainly in personal settings, praying for people individually, but then the last seven, eight years it’s been now more out in the open, in groups and churches and conferences, traveling, doing equipping, and so I mean I’ve been just really, you know, contending to see deliverance restored to the church because it’s such a key area of ministry.

I mean, it’s often a missing link in people’s journey of freedom, of healing, of sanctification and so. But as I see deliverance now becoming more and more out to the forefront, I think I have two responses. One is excited, like I’m excited because I just like I said, it’s such a key ministry and so I’m excited to see it getting more prominence, more attention and more churches are embracing it, more believers are becoming open to it. So that’s kind of one hand I feel, you know, excited about it. On the other hand, I feel a little bit nervous because it’s like once something becomes more and more out in the open and more prominent, almost like it becomes more popular, and then that leaves more room sometimes for some of that corruption to get in there, and so I kind of I’m kind of walking in that type of a balance where it’s like, yes, it’s awesome to see it getting out there, but I’m like just really, you know, hopeful that we can see it done in a pure and healthy way.

0:23:05 – Tammie Southerland
Yeah, and I feel the same way. And here’s the thing I think that compassion element, that humility element is what is so important in this conversation, and I was actually thinking about this earlier. Jake, your story, my story you’ve been moving, you know, in this for many years and a lot of people don’t really know who Jake Kale is, and that’s okay, they don’t really know. Jake Kale’s been doing deliverance ministry for 18 years and then, all of a sudden, you see, you know this become more out front, you become just, you see it become more popular and then it becomes, you know, an opportunity I guess for the lack of a better word to build a platform.

And earlier, you know, I was thinking about this, praying about this. Isn’t that interesting how that happens, how the enemy will even use something that kicks him out of commission to bring pride and arrogance into play in order to stop the power of God from moving through his sons and daughters. I just, I think that’s that’s just so shocking. But those of us that have been just walking with him for many years and just enjoying the fact that he likes to deliver his people or sit back and watching this, and we have mixed emotions about it.

0:24:28 – Jake Kail
Yeah, yeah, that’s a very interesting way to put it. Yeah, and hadn’t quite considered it the way you said it. Like that, tammy, it’s a very, yeah, very interesting way to put it. I think that definitely rings true and yeah, it is that.

It is that compassion element and I know like, for for me, very often when I minister deliverance to people, I mean I’m literally weeping.

There’s literally a weeping because it’s the love of God that just is coming through.

And when you hear people’s stories, you hear about some of the trauma that people have gone through, where people are confessing sins to you that they’ve never told another person, and it’s very vulnerable and it’s very just sometimes heart wrenching when you hear some of the abuse and some of the trauma, and it’s just the love of God is so there. I mean the Bible says that God is near to the broken hearted. He’s near to the broken hearted and so when these, when, when, when some are coming to you in that condition of that brokenness, that broken Hardiness, that trauma they’ve gone through, god comes near, and when his presence comes near, it’s like, yeah, there’s very often it’s I can’t help but just be weeping with under the compassion of the Lord, and so, then, to think that’s something like that, that is so intimate and beautiful and holy, I can, could be exploited, you know, could be exploited for personal gain, for Influence, for money, for popularity. It’s just, it’s. It’s very heartbreaking. I think it’s grieving. It’s grieving to the Lord.

0:25:58 – Tammie Southerland
Yeah, even as you’re speaking, like I’m literally feeling the grieving of the spirit, I literally feel a groan welling up in me, tears coming, because I do believe it’s.

It’s such an important topic to his heart right now that we remember that that he hates to see his sons and daughters in bondage, he hates to see the captive captive and In this movement, even what we’ve asked him to move in signs and wonders, we’ve asked him to move in deliverance, that we have to remember that we, we have an enemy that would love To capitalize on the very thing that he wants to bring forth and I believe, is, you know, the birth pangs of revival, is the birth pangs of you know, the answer to our cries for him to come and release justice in the earth.

Because you know, I don’t know about you, but I can walk into a room and I can feel the bondage on people and it literally breaks my heart, it makes me weak. There’s, like I’ve said this before, in just in a room, before you know, I want to speak at a place that I hate seeing people in bondage, whether it’s a religious spirit or it’s. You know, it’s trauma from their past and that’s the, that’s the compassion of the Lord, and so I even feel like right now, god is actually releasing a warning to us that I’m moving with power. But be alert and be aware, because you do have an enemy that that would love To to you know. Take you down with him right now.

0:27:38 – Jake Kail
I agree hundred percent. Yep, it’s right on.

0:27:40 – Tammie Southerland
Yeah, because this is longing to see the captain of set free. I mean, oh, I don’t even have, I can’t even, I can’t even explain that to the way, to the level that I feel it. But Anyway, so if you are able to really speak into the lives of those whom God is raising up right now, just Even prophetically, because that’s really a lot of our desire with this podcast, is to tell the messengers, the emerging messengers, the current messengers of the Lord, whether they’re in the church or they’re in the, you know, in the marketplace. We want to express to them that they don’t have to burn alone, in that they, you know, there’s a place for them to grow. I just wanted you to take like five to ten minutes, jake, and just really speak directly into those that are listening.

0:28:29 – Jake Kail
Yeah, yeah, what an honor. And you know you’re right, god is God’s raising up voices, god’s raising up messengers and you know, I just I want to encourage when we all have a process. Every calling has a process to it. And you know John the Baptist.

He was in the wilderness Until the day of his manifestation, it says in Luke 180. He had a process, he had a time of waiting, he had a time of just being completely unknown and God used that time. Joseph had his time Right. He was sold into slavery, he was betrayed, he was imprisoned. After, after obeying God, he ended up in prison. Right all these years go by David, he had his calling, he received the prophetic word from Samuel. He even goes and takes out Goliath and he goes into this incredibly challenging trial with King Saul being chased out, being hunted down, solving paranoid about him.

And so with every Calling, there is a process, there is a process, and Sometimes, when you’re in the middle of that process, you, you think it’s never gonna end. You think I’m always gonna be in this wilderness, I’m always gonna be in this season, because that’s all you can see. You can’t see any way to the fulfillment of that calling. And so my encouragement is yield yourselves to God, trust God with your own journey, with your own process. It’s not a formula. There’s no exact same way, but there’s patterns. We see this pattern in scripture God gives a calling, then there’s a time of preparation, then there is a release, a commissioning, and so I think there are many emerging messengers right now in that place of training, of preparation, of Preparing of wilderness, of testing, and God uses that. God uses that to refine us, god uses that to equip us, god uses that to bring that place of humility and brokenness. So don’t despise that season.

If you’re in that season, if you’re one of those ones that might be in that season where it just doesn’t seem like there’s any way you can even get to that end of your calling, that fulfillment of your Calling, that’s Joseph being in prison. How could he ever be elevated to a place of authority like he had seen in his dream so many years ago? It seemed very impossible. But when the time is right, when God says it’s time, there is a change of seasons and then Joseph gets elevated to that place. But now he’s ready to carry that weight. I mean, imagine being placed in that type of a prominent position. You are second in command to Pharaoh. You’re making decisions. You’re I mean, you’re pretty much calling the shots.

That that’s a weighty type Position and some of the callings that that, that you have those who are watching this and listening to this. Some of your callings are very weighty callings and we’re called to carry the word of God. We’re called to be prophetic messengers or called to speak his word. I mean, think about the prophets in the Old Testament. It said that they were to stand in the counsel of God, that they were to be sent by God, they were to speak the word of God. These are weighty, weighty roles and responsibilities.

And so if you’re in that season where you just feel like things just aren’t happening and there’s trials, there’s betrayals, there’s confusion, I just want to release peace over you, grace over you, encouragement to you, and use this season to continue to cultivate the intimacy with the Lord. Use that season to cultivate the secret place. Use that season to let your roots go deeper and deeper into him. Because once the season shifts and then there begins to be more fruitfulness, there begins to be more activity, there begins to be more fulfillment and open doors, you’re bringing the step in your gifting if you haven’t cultivated that deep place of intimacy, those roots then aren’t going to be deep enough to sustain that fruitfulness. And that’s, you know, that leads to some of the stuff we talked about earlier, or some of the corruption, can come in and we can get off track. But if you’ll use that season of preparation to just let your heart be tenderized before God, let the roots go deep into him, deepen his word, deep in the secret place, deep in prayer, then when God begins to move and send you out, then you have that root system to sustain you, to strengthen you, to stabilize you.

And and then I think God’s also teaching us to find our identity first and foremost as sons and daughters. Yeah, that’s part of what this wilderness is about, this part of what the training is about, part of what the preparation is about. He wants our identity to be rooted first and foremost as a for me, a son right, for you, tammy, a daughter Right. So God wants that to be the foundation of our identity. Yeah, because that’s the only, that’s the only place of deep security and stability in him. That’s where Jesus was rooted, even before he was sent out to minister. He was baptized by John the Baptist and the father spoke. This is my son, whom I love. With him I’m well pleased. That was before he cast out a demon I that was before he preached his first sermon. That was before he healed the sick.

God wants us to stay in that place so that ministry does not become an idol. Ministry does not become what we need to fulfill our lives. And yes, there’s a reality of calling, yes, there’s a reality of gifting. That’s all real. That’s not the foundation of our identity and that’s part of what God’s wanting to build into us. Those messengers that are being prepared right now, those burning ones, those torchbearers God is training us so that we are rooted in our identity in Christ, so that ministry does not become our identity. That’s going to go such a long way into keeping us pure, on the right track, rooted in God, for the long run.

We want longevity. We don’t just want to be a flash in the pan and come on the scene and just burst and then all of a sudden we get pulled away. God’s after longevity, endurance, long-term fruit, lasting fruit, eternal fruit. And so trust the Lord in your own process, wherever you’re at in that journey. Trust the Lord in that process. Just continue to yield yourself to him, keep saying yes to him every day, keep saying yes to him, yes to the calling, yes to obedience, walk in his grace, and you’ll be amazed at how God will continue to unfold and just connect and make things, just make a way for what he’s doing through you, because it’s really all about what he’s doing and what his calling is.

So, yeah, I think we’re in an incredible time in the body of Christ. Like you said, we’re seeing birth, pangs of revival. We’re seeing just beginnings of decades of prayer that have been prayed. Just for all these years of crying out, I believe God’s just beginning to show us the first signs of answer to that. We’re seeing a lot of changing of the guard, because we’re seeing those who have been generals, those who have been leading, just coming to. Maybe they’ve passed away or they’re getting older, they’re passing the baton. So it really is a very key time in the body of Christ at large, and so I would not be surprised at all over this next five years, 10 years, to see an emergence of many of these messengers that, just like John the Baptist, have been in the wilderness. Nobody knows who they are, but God knows who they are and God will bring them on the scene at the right time, at the right time in the right place, and it’s all for His purpose, all for His kingdom, all for His glory.

0:35:48 – Tammie Southerland
Amen, Amen. And I just want to say this as he was speaking, my heart was stirred. I believe there’s somebody that’s watching maybe a few of you and you’ve actually felt a lot of pressure. You’ve been trying to figure out. You know you’re emerging or how do you fit or where’s your voice and I feel like the Lord really wants you to know that the pressure is off, that the calling is to be a son, a daughter. This is who you are and then he’s been deepening those roots for you and solidifying for you your identity as a son and a daughter, not so you can get into ministry well, but so that you will know how to walk eternally in who you are.

And so the pressure right now to perform, or the pressure to be in a position, is off of you completely. It’s not a punishment. You’ve not been put on the shelf. It’s actually because he loves you so deeply that he wants you to know that your eternal identity is His Son, His daughter, and I just wanted to release that. Right now. It’s feeling that burning in my heart. Jake, can you pray, just as we close out, for those that are watching?

0:37:01 – Jake Kail
Absolutely yeah, but love to yeah. Father, I thank you so much for every person watching this right now. God, wherever they’re at in their journey, god, I pray, I pray your Holy Spirit would come upon them in a tangible way even right now. Let the power of the Holy Spirit come upon them. Let your love fill their hearts. God, I pray for those that need deliverance.

I pray for that same anointing of Isaiah 61, lord, that would heal the broken heart and set the captive free. In the name of Jesus, god, would you come and minister even freedom. But right now, in the name of Jesus, I break the power, that spirit of heaviness. I command every spirit of heaviness and oppression to come out, to lift off every spirit of fear to leave the people now, in Jesus’ name, every spirit of infirmity I command to go. In Jesus’ name and God, I pray a fresh baptism of the Holy Spirit. Let your Holy Spirit, god, come upon each one in a fresh way. Give us a deeper revelation of Jesus. Empower us, god, to carry your heart, your love, your fire. God, make us messengers of fire, god, those burning ones. I pray your grace, I pray your blessing, your hand upon each one right now, father, in Jesus’ name, amen.

0:38:11 – Tammie Southerland
Amen. Thank you so much, jake Guys, jake has abundance of resources. He’s got a podcast called Torchbearers. He has multiple books that he’s written on the ministry of deliverance and different things. I believe, jake, you have a book, new book you’re releasing right now also, am I right?

0:38:29 – Jake Kail
Yes, I’m working on it right now. It’s planning to be released over the summer. It’s a book on the secret place called Living from the Secret Place. But yeah, all my stuff is on my website. All my books and resources are on my website.

0:38:40 – Tammie Southerland
Amen. So that’s Jake Kail.com We’re going to have all of that information for you in the description. Follow him, get your hands on some of these resources and man, he’s a wealth of information and he’s as pure hearted as it gets. Y’all know that is so important to me to bring you burning messengers who have a pure heart and they’re actually walking out and living the message that they preach. So thank you so much, jake, for joining us. Thank you, guys, for being with us again this week. Remember you don’t have to burn alone. Be sure to share this out and, you know, let other people benefit from knowing that they don’t have to burn alone. They don’t have to be burning ones that are sitting somewhere in isolation. We love you, guys. Thank you so much again for being with us this week.

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September 14, 2023/by Tammie Southerland

Burning Messengers Podcast

Journey through Revelation and Prepare for Jesus’ Second Coming

In this enlightening conversation, we tackle the weighty topic of Jesus as the faithful witness. Listen in as we examine why Jesus gave us life and held steadfast to his testimony until his death. We explore the profound meaning behind Revelation 5 and the significance of Jesus’ return imprinted in our DNA. With a rising number of pastors and leaders standing up and teaching the scriptures, we discuss how this prepares an entire generation for his second coming. As someone who has been preaching this message for almost 20 years, I share my personal journey and insights on how to respond to this message.

In the second part of our discussion, we delve into what it means to be an apostolic witness, taking into account the groaning of creation and our own groaning as sons and daughters of God. We contemplate the end time groaning and the urgent messages that have been sent out, emphasizing the need to focus on the intensity of what is happening around us, rather than the time. We also consider the danger of not finishing well and the grace of God that is available to us, encouraging listeners to fix their eyes on what is unseen and follow John the Baptist’s example as a true witness.

Lastly, we shift our focus to understanding our identity as beloved disciples of Jesus. We discuss the importance of transitioning from identifying ourselves by what we can do to realizing we are loved by Jesus. We explore the role of faith and the transformative power of prayer, love for Jesus, and his word. The conversation concludes with an inspiring discussion on rising above accusations, lies, and intimidation, walking in the power of resurrection, and transforming lives. This episode is a powerful testament to the hope that is in us, inspiring listeners to defend their faith and keep a good conscience.

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Transcript

0:00:00 – Tammie Southerland
You see, Jesus is called the faithful witness. That’s who he is. In Revelation 1 1. Do you know why he’s the faithful witness? Because he gave us life. You see, the true and faithful witness Will hold to that testimony until they become the testimony. And you see, this is something that we don’t, really we don’t look at this. But in Revelation 5, see, jesus is the faithful witness. He’s faithful and true, right he. He took the testimony all the way to his death. So I want you to know just a little bit the way that I flow and you guys back there, they’ll they have some notes, but hang with me because I really listened to what he said and I followed his lead.

Whenever I minister and have something prepared, but even as we’re worshiping, like I’m listening and I’m saying what are you saying, what are you doing? And it’s always like there’s people online, there’s people in the room, the word always begin to show me like, what do you want to say to the specific people? And I Love that. Over the past few, what month Jeff’s been, you know, preaching and teaching on the end of the age, and that’s a message that we don’t hear a lot. And here’s the crazy, amazing thing this is the message that God has actually burnt into my DNA long before you know, people started talking about it. I took a lot of flat for preaching on the message that would prepare people to stand firm and the day that Jesus would return. And and Over the years, like I, sometimes I got kind of hidden in the cave and I’m like, okay, I must stop preaching that so loud. And then sometimes I’m just like I’m gonna hit it hard. And, and recently I have noticed that more and more pastors and leaders and speakers are Stepping up to the plate and they’re not just saying, hey, jesus is coming, they’re actually teaching the scriptures to prepare an entire generation For the return of the Lord in such a way that people’s hearts are actually coming alive and they’re grabbing a hold of this word.

And for somebody like me that’s been they’ve been saying Jesus is coming, jesus is coming. You know, for close to 20 years I mean honestly, since I was a little kid, I was just been intrigued by the end of the age, by, intrigued by the book of Revelation and Daniel and Ezekiel. You know, I’m like talking about like six, seven, eight years old. Okay, and I’m seeing now like Lord, you really are bringing something into alignment, because people are actually their ears are open. I don’t know if you guys realize that people’s ears haven’t been open. People’s ears have really largely been shut. They’ve they’ve a largely been like the, the, you know the naysayers that would say, you know, like in the days of no, it’s never rained before. And people are certainly like, wait a minute, maybe it’s gonna rain, and so that’s very, very exciting for me. I’m gonna pray and then we’re gonna talk about.

We’re gonna talk about how do we respond? How do we respond to all of this? This teaching of Jesus is coming. Who are we in the scope of that thing like? Do we have a message, do we have a part to play? And and how do we do that? How do we walk it out?

So, father, I just thank you for the opportunity to be able to be your mouthpiece, to be your messenger tonight. God, I’m asking you that you would mark us as a body, as a spiritual family, that you would make us messengers. Lord, I’m asking you tonight that you would open my mouth and that you would speak and then I would just get out of the way, because you truly are worthy. You truly are worthy of Of the truth, going forth with power. You truly are worthy of an entire generation of people who would be marked with fire and Prepared to be messengers at the end of the age. Jesus, you’re worthy of the demonstration of the gospel. Jesus, you’re worthy of deliverance. You’re worthy of healing. You’re worthy of us understanding. Jesus, speak, speak and open our hearts Tonight, in this room and on the live stream, wherever we are, in Jesus name. So I titled this message the call of an apostolic witness, and I’m gonna explain that in just a minute.

We’ve talked about five-fold ministry, right, and we have talked about the, the Lord’s return, and in, what the events look like as they unfold at the end of the age, and a lot of people are just like you know, okay, that was a lot to swallow, right. But how does that play out for us personally? How does what does that look like whenever we’re looking at the, at winder, and we’re looking at Drug addiction, we’re looking at abuse, we’re looking at a spirit of poverty, you know? And what does that look like in our, in our, in our state? What is it like in our nation? And what does it look like in the nations of the earth?

Well, god is raising up apostolic witnesses At the end of the age. And so what that? What? Let’s, let’s just take that very simply. What that means is just there’s different ways to talk about the five-fold ministry and to talk about the apostle, the gift of the apostle. But this word, up the apostolic, this word actually means Someone sent or commissioned, that is, a sent one, and it’s it’s a word that kind of encompasses being a messenger, it encompasses being on a mission, and Then the word witness, translated in the Greek, actually translates as the word martyr. Did you know that?

And so we’re taking these two words, apostolic witness, and we’re putting them in the light of the end of the age. And when, then, we’re looking at everything that’s going on around us, right, the, we’re looking at what is truly the birth pains of the entire earth. That earth is groaning. Did you know that? It says that in the book of Romans, chapter 8, that all of creation groans. And so there’s this, this imagery of a woman in labor, and it’s saying that creation itself is like a woman in labor. It’s panting and crying out and groaning, and we’re gonna look at this more closely for the sons of God. Well, here’s the second part of that the sons and daughters of God, we’re actually groaning.

We have an inward witness. Do we know who? The inward witness is? The Holy Spirit. So the inward witness of the Holy Spirit within us is causing us to groan, us to pant us, to cry out for the son of God. And so you have, almost like, the symphony that’s taking place at the end of the age has been taking place of actually all throughout creation, ever since Adam and Eve made the decision to take of the fruit of the tree and they fell, creation started groaning, man started groaning, it started longing for justice, it started longing to be set free from its captivity.

And so, in the scope of things, this is what we’re dealing with, and as it gets closer and closer, I know that whenever I went into labor, specifically with one of my kids, I was like I had been back and forth to the birth center. We had all these false alarms. And whenever I was in labor with my youngest one, I was like I will not go back, I will not tell Damon, we’re not going to say anything until I know that. I know that, I know that I’m going to have this baby, because I don’t want to look like a fool again and see. The truth is, that’s kind of the place we are in as believers, as the body of Christ Like there’s this end time groaning.

The contractions are getting close together, but there’s been a lot of messengers that have gone forth and said he’s coming, and so there’s trepidation, there’s concern, there’s fear that, like, are we going to miss it? Is it okay to really be preaching this right now? Well, whenever I went into labor with Adley, I was literally laying on the couch and I was looking, I was timing the contractions. I told Damon to go to bed and the contractions were. They weren’t exactly like the two minute mark. You know, you know the textbook pregnancy is going to be like every two minutes, right, and then every minute. Well, that’s not what was happening. But they were getting more intense and it was so intense and so painful that I was actually on the floor and the Spirit of the Lord I had a timer set up on my computer where I was timing the contractions the Spirit of the Lord spoke to me and he said don’t look at the time, look at the intensity. And when the Lord said that to me, I was like oh. And then I was like okay, I think I should go, wake Damon up now.

And the long story short. We had to drive 45 minutes to the birth center and by the time we got there, 30 minutes later, I had a baby in my arms. We, if the Lord wouldn’t have spoken that to me, I probably would have had a baby in the house or in the car, and the way Damon was driving I was afraid I was going to have a baby in the car. But that’s where we are. These birth pains are getting stronger and the witnesses, the messengers, are getting sent, and so there’s this groaning on the inside of us, this bearing witness with what all of creation’s saying, and it’s time for us to come out of the cave. It’s time for us to go, come out of hiding and begin to understand that things are getting more intense, and we don’t know the day or the hour and we don’t know the timing, but we’ve got to listen to the intensity, we’ve got to pay attention because we’re being set to watch. So first I just really like I just quoted this scripture.

But Romans 826 talks about the groan. It talks about the wordless prayers with a Holy Spirit praised through us. Groanings that can’t be uttered, right Words that can’t be uttered. So I want to look at that first, and then we’re going to jump into some of the stuff on the notes. I promise I’m going to get to the notes guys a little bit. I won’t promise I get all of them.

And so I’ve been stuck in Romans 8. Oh my gosh, for like years, okay, you can’t, you can’t eat the word slow enough sometimes. I want to say that you don’t have to like, you don’t have to consume the word at record rate. You can chew on it, you can, you can ask him for revelation on it. And so he’s been unfolding this Romans 8 to me, this groan to me, probably for four to five years.

I was struck with this, this groan, this awakening, when I was in Israel several years ago and I said, lord, I want to understand what is that, what is this unspoken, what is this wordlessness? And so this is the first part of it. It’s the first part of becoming a witness. It’s the, it’s the witness of his spirit inside of you that says yes. It’s the groaning, it’s the longing inside of you that causes your heart to line up with the spirit. And where it says in Revelation 22, 17, the spirit and the bride say come. So there’s this divine alignment that starts taking place.

So if you look specifically at Romans 8 26, it says in the same way the spirit also helps our weakness, for we do not know how to pray as we should, but he himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. It says he who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the spirit is, and he intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. So if you were to look even further back in Romans 8, it talks about, in verse 11, that the spirit of him who raised Jesus for the dead, the whales and you. And so if you study out Romans 8, you know that this particular part of scripture is telling you your identity of sons and daughters, and it’s also telling you that you have the witness of the spirit on the inside of you. And so when we’re born again that’s that is literally step a it’s the Holy Spirit that draws us. It’s the Holy Spirit that convicts us of sin and righteousness and judgment. It’s also the Holy Spirit that causes us to know and understand that we are sons of God. And then it’s also the Holy Spirit that prays in and through us when we don’t know what to pray as we should.

So what does this have to do with the end of the age? Has everything to do with it, because the beginning step a is learning how to get in sync with him. It’s learning how to say what he says, pray what he prays, fall in love with him. Listen, it says in Revelation I think it’s chapter two, where it’s talking about the church at Laodicea is at two or three, three that they’ve done all these things well, but he has this one thing against them that they’ve left their first love. And here’s the thing, the first love longing comes from being fully yielded into him all the days of our life. It’s step a in identity, it’s step a in hunger, is step a in the Christian walk is leaning into his witness.

And the word witness, I’ve told you, in the Greek means martyr, but it’s also a term that is a courtroom term to a judicial term. So a witness sits on the witness stand and identifies that they have both seen and heard a particular event and they’re they’re agreeing or disagreeing with the accused right. And so the beginning part of being a witness is the Holy Spirit in you is saying yes, you’re a son, yes, you’re a daughter, yes, he died, yes, he was raised up, yes, he’s coming again. That’s the beginning, and so if we don’t understand that part, then we won’t understand the rest of it, because it starts there. It even says in church of Latter, see, they lose their lampstand if they don’t return to the first love. And so we’ve got to step a, understand that we can do all the things, but if we’re not abiding in him, if we’re not gazing on him, if we’re not lovesick for him, then we’re literally going to be. Listen, that’s a scary thing, but are literally the light, the lamp, the fire of God will be taken away because we’ve neglected the very point, the very reason in which we were saved.

I posted this to them on Facebook today. It started in a garden and it’s going to return in a garden. Right, if I had time to tell you the whole garden encounter, the garden of Gethsemane in Israel. He’s very interested in the garden, he’s very interested in that encounter. He’s very interested in intimacy with you, since started with a tree and it ended with a tree. It’s all about love, and so I’ve been very, very intrigued by this word witness and how it means martyr.

And so how do we find ourselves at the place? How do people find themselves at the place that they’re willing to lay down their lives? Because I really don’t think that people go out into the mission field and that, or they live in nations where they’re being persecuted, that they’re laying down their lives as martyrs because it was just a good idea. I really don’t think they got zealous enough about their religion to where they were willing to lay down their lives. It says that they were led in the beginning of the new church, the early church, and we will be too. They were led as sheep to the slaughter. Sheep, humble, lowly. How do we get to that place?

So Joan of Arc is one that has really kind of like God’s kind of brought her to the forefront for me. I don’t read you this quote. She said it’s better to be alone with God. His friendship will not fail me, nor his counsel, nor his love, and in his strength I will dare and dare and dare until I die. I want to read. Can I read that again? It is better to be alone with God. Listen, it is better to be alone with God, for his friendship will not fail me, nor his counsel, nor his love, and in his strength I will dare and dare and dare until I die.

She was 19 years old when she was burned at the stake. She was tried as a witch. Do you know that? The reason that they burned her at the stake is really because she said that she saw visions and heard the voice of God, among all the other things that this young girl did. Her true witness is that I’ve seen him and I’ve heard him and I know him, and you can’t take that away from me.

You see, it’s the love-sick reality, I guarantee you. There was the inward witness of the groan of the spirit on the inside of this young girl that said there’s nothing, nothing in this earth that you can take away from me, that even can compare to being with him in the glory, to looking at him, gazing on him. It’s that kind of passion, that kind of love. It’s seeing beyond the earthen realm. It’s knowing that we’re sojourners in this earth. It’s knowing that this is not our home. It’s seeing so far above that, knowing that Ephesians 2, 6 is true. We’re seated with him in heavenly places, fully understanding that we are sons and that we’re daughters and we’re on a mission in this earth, that we were born for such a time as this and that his presence comes near and he will not leave us and he will not forsake us, no matter what happens in the earth or the nation that we live in. It’s that kind of hunger, it’s that kind of understanding that would cause someone to truly be a witness unto the death.

So too often people start well but they don’t finish well. You ever thought about that? We’re a generation of good starters. I confess I try to spin all the plates, I try to do all the things and I’ve found that that condemnation will come on me whenever I realize, like I’ve dropped this ball and I’ve dropped that ball and we do really, really good, especially in the generation of social media. We do so good at saying I’m doing this and I’m doing that and I’ve got this vision, and we start well, but very few finish well. And listen, I’m gonna say this to you prophetically right now, this generation is in more danger of not finishing well, probably than any other generation that has walked across this earth. We’re in heavy, heavy danger, and I’m not just talking about the kids sitting over there, wherever they are, the teenagers. I’m talking about our generation, the people on this earth. We’re so in danger of not finishing well.

But at the same time, the grace of God, the witness of the spirit, the outpouring of his spirit, the drawing right now is at an unprecedented level. So it says in 2 Corinthians 4, 17 to 18, for our light and momentary afflictions is producing for us an eternal glory that is far beyond comparison. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen but what is unseen, for what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. This has to become real to us. Where are your eyes fixed? What are you gazing on? What are you a witness to? Have we become witnesses? Have we stayed at level one of the Holy Spirit? You’re a good son, you’re a good daughter. That’s a good message. He’s a good father, but that is the milk. That is level one. What are you witnessing? What are you gazing on? What are you thirsting for? Because it says that if we fix our eyes on what is unseen, that what we see and what we endure really doesn’t have a bearing on us.

So John the Baptist probably is one of my favorite characters beside John the Beloved. To be honest with you, john the Baptist prepared the way of the Lord right. We know his story. We’re very familiar with him People. We said we’re the John the Baptist generation, but the truth of the matter is that God is calling us to be a generation of people who prepare the way.

And so John the Baptist actually was in the lineage of the priesthood. He could have worn the fine clothing, he could have served in the temple, but he was set apart, he was consecrated and so he actually became a Nazarite. He was one of the Essians. He lived out in the wilderness I’ve been there in Israel. Like it was hot, it was gross. He wore camel skins and Jesus refers to John as the greatest man born of women.

And so, just before John was beheaded, he trembled and he called for Jesus and he wanted to know like are you really the one? He found himself in a moment where you know he prepared the way. He was filled with the spirit from the womb. He found himself in a place in prison, when he was about to lose his head, where he was calling for Jesus and saying can you please tell me one more time, can you confirm to me one more time? John was a true witness. He’d seen, he’d heard, he had the feeling of the spirit, he had all of these things, but when the pressure came on. He wanted to know one more time. I want to know are you worth it? Is this true? Because if it is, I’ll lose my head. And Jesus responded. I love how Jesus responded, because everything on the inside of John cried out he’s coming, he’s here and I’m preparing the way. And that’s the true witness. That is the apostolic messenger. The apostolic messenger will go out of the comfort of their home, out of the comfort of the church, out of the comfort of you know, whatever you know you may think you have due to you and throw all that to the side to preach one message he’s coming. But I love how Jesus speaks of John the Baptist. It says in Matthew 11, 7 to 10,.

As John’s disciples were leaving, jesus began to speak to the crowd. I love this because he did confirm to John who he was. But then he turns to the crowd. This is the man that’s questioning, right? He says what did you go out to the wilderness to see? A reed swayed by the wind? If not, what did you go to see? A man dressed in fine clothes? No, those who wear fine clothes are in the king’s palaces. What did you go to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you more than a prophet. This is the one of whom I’m written. I will send my messenger ahead of you and he who will prepare your way before you.

Jesus confirms John and, in the same moment he’s confirming himself, he calls this man who is shaken, who has laid down everything, who’s about to lose his head, the greatest man born of woman. Because there was an intimacy between the two of them, there was a witness between the two of them. And then he turns, he confirms to John the signs and wonders and miracles that he’s seen. He confirms his witness and then he turns to the people and he was saying who did you think he was? You see, god’s gonna raise us up as messengers. He’s gonna raise us up as witnesses at the end of the age, and we’re not gonna look like they thought we’re gonna look. We’re not gonna sound like they thought we’re gonna sound. Listen, it’s not gonna come in the package that we thought it was gonna come in and listen, it’s gonna be signs and wonders and miracles. And it’s gonna be suffering and it’s gonna be pain and it’s not gonna be pretty, but at the same time it’s gonna be glorious. And people are gonna look and they’re gonna say is he really coming? Is he really who you said he is?

If you’re laying down your life, and Jesus will come and he will confirm to us who he is, what we’ve seen and what we heard, and in the same breath he will confirm who he is. You see, he doesn’t leave us orphans. He’s not changed. He’s the same yesterday, today and forever. I love how you even drew the parallels between how he was the same in the wilderness whenever he removed the Israelites from those bags, basically their plagues, their bowls of wrath. In the same way he will do for us. You see, we have to love, not our lives, even if it cost us our lives. And it’s only by the witness of the spirit that we find ourself in that place.

And so I’m skipping over some stuff, guys, because I wanna get to the power of this witness. You see, jesus is called the faithful witness. That’s who he is in Revelation 1-1. Do you know why he’s the faithful witness? Because he gave his life. You see, the true and faithful witnesses will hold to that testimony until they become the testimony.

And you see, this is something that we don’t really, we don’t look at this, but in Revelation 5, see, jesus is the faithful witness. He’s faithful and true. Right. He took the testimony all the way to his death. He could not sway him, satan could not offer him enough. He could not be changed. He stood firm and stood steadfast and he’s faithful and true. And then we see him in Revelation 5 as the embodiment of the message. When we see the lamb, the slain lamb with the seven horns and the seven eyes, who’s the only one worthy to open the scrolls. You see, when we become, when we begin to walk out what we’ve seen and what we’ve heard, we actually begin to be transformed by the message that we actually become, come to a place where we find ourselves being the message, because you can’t undo what you’ve seen and what you’ve heard. So it’s a definite change there.

So Jesus said in Acts 1, 7 to 9, for you do not know the times of the seasons that the Father has fixed upon his own authority, but you will receive my power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you and you will be my witnesses, and Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria to the ends of the earth. And after this, they watched and he was taken up and a cloud hid them from her sight. We think about and I think I’m kind of pushing this point, but a lot of times we think about witnessing or we’re going to knock on doors, right, we share the I mean everybody remember the Four Spiritual Laws, that’s what I cut my teeth on. I was Methodist, baptist, pentecostal-ish, all of the things right. But we think that’s witnessing. But you can’t truly witness unless you’ve been endowed by the Spirit and you’ve seen and heard and see Jesus actually pours out his Spirit upon them and then he sends them into their region, into their basically in our terms, into their region, into their state and into their nation and to the ends of the earth To bear witness to what they’ve seen and heard.

How many of you know that the witnesses, or the disciples, all but John, became martyrs? They all laid down their life for what they had seen and heard. And so the witness becomes. You transition from the inward witness to the historical. You could tell the story. You have history with God. You’ve identified with. You know you’ve had some time that you’ve walked with him, you’ve seen him do some things. And then that final stage is that ethical, true witness that we see Jesus walking in. It says that Jesus was this fateful witness because he went all the way to his death.

Revelation 12, 11 says that those at the end of the age will love, not their lives, even unto death. We don’t will ourselves here. I think that’s what I’m driving home with us. We can’t will it. We can’t be good enough believers, we can’t study the scriptures enough, we can’t quote enough scripture, we can’t be bold enough. We don’t get ourselves to being in that place where we lay down our lives, where we become the message because we did good enough. We find ourselves in that place because we’ve actually found ourselves completely molded into him. We’ve leaned ourselves completely into him. We found our identity in him.

And here’s something I want you to hear, this the key difference between Peter and I love Peter. I’ve been about a lot with Peter, I’ve wanted to slice the ears right and John which, john the beloved. I’m not talking about John the Baptist, john the beloved, he was the son of thunder, he wanted to call down fire. But the key difference between these two is how they spoke of themselves before Jesus. See, peter had all the zeal. He says I’ll die for you, I’m going to fight for you, I’m going to do you know, this is who he said, he who he was. I’m the guy with the zeal, jesus. I love you. Jesus, I’m the burning one.

When John the beloved said I’m the disciple who Jesus loves, he identified himself about how Jesus felt about him instead of how he felt about Jesus. And I’ve walked through this personally in my life. It’s been like I will do the thing, I will die. I’ve got the grit, I’ve got the grind. Send me to the mission field. You know, he said to me. I said, lord, send me to the mission field. I want to die on the mission field, I want to die as a martyr. I will go do the thing. You know what he said to me get married, have kids, die there. Probably not completely dead yet, but that’s, that’s who he’s called us to be. He’s called us to transition from the place where we identify ourselves with all that we are and that’s okay.

That’s the maturity process. So we would begin to say, listen, I don’t have anything to offer. I have begun to understand fully the older that I’ve gotten, the more passionate that I’ve gotten, the less that I don’t know anything. I am actually very immature. I really need help. Jesus, I am your beloved. Jesus, I’m your beloved Because, if I can shrink back to the place where I know that I’m the beloved. And listen, that sounds arrogant, doesn’t it? But it’s actually the most humble place to be. It’s more arrogant to say I can do all the things.

And what did Peter do before the rooster crow? Right? He denied him three times. Where was John? Where was John the beloved and the women? By the way, john the beloved and the women were at the feet of the cross. He was the only one of the 12 that found himself at the foot of the cross, the one whom Jesus loved.

Peter was restored, but I believe that there’s something key there that carries us from being zealous and passionate. And listen, I will be zealous and passionate the rest of my life, and that may kill me one day, and that’s okay. But before I’m that zealous and that passionate, I want to know who I am and him, and I want to know how desperately in love with me he is. When I fail, when my faith fails me, when my strength fails me, I draw on his faith. I draw on his strength. Listen, even before I got up here, god, I’m praying. Lord, give me your faith, strengthen my faith, strengthen my faith, strengthen my faith. Jesus, you’re worthy of burning souls. Jesus, you’re worthy of messengers going forth into the earth. Jesus, you’re worthy of healing. I’m not. I’m not worthy, but because of him I’m beloved.

Does it ever boggle your mind why our Savior would lay his life down as a bridegroom and literally hand the kingdom to a bunch of broken messed up? Don’t nobody even know who he is, people we don’t even know him. And he was like here, go take the world. And we’re like a bunch of two-year-olds, we don’t have a clue, but he does it anyway. So Romans 8 has been so powerful to me because it talks about the revealing of the sons of God. It talks about the revealing of the sons of man, son of man. So it’s again that syncing together the spirit and the bride they call. And so the apostolic witness grows and matures throughout a journey with him.

As we receive more messages and more understanding. We see more of the birth pangs, we see more of the reality of his coming. We begin to get emboldened to preach the message. We actually get that face-like flint and at the same time we’re beautifully compassionate and he’s able to move through us as we grow and we mature in him. He actually makes us the message. We become the messengers because we’ve learned how to abide in him, we’ve learned how to gaze on him, we learn how to take the word of God and we read it and we pray it like it’s our lifeline, like it’s sustenance, like it really is our daily bread, instead of checking our religious box.

When we begin to mature into that place, we’re actually answering the groan of all creation. And listen, the fullness of that will come whenever he returns. But the groan of all creation is that you and I would wake up and understand who we are, because the calling of an apostolic witness, in the truest sense of the word, is to grow up in him and to go out into the earth and to manifest the presence and the beauty and the wholeness and the message of God, not because of who we are, but because of who he is. Did you know that we can actually find ourselves in a place and listen, it’s abiding in prayer, it’s chewing on the word, it’s finding ourselves lovesick. We find ourselves in that place where we go so low that he fully overtakes us and listen. I believe this. It says go into all the world and heal the sick and raise the dead and cleanse the lepers. He says freely, you’ve received. Freely give. I believe fully that this is not an if, and it’s not for some people. It’s literally for all of us to find ourselves in the place where we’re so in love with him that all we want to do is be with him, that when we walk out into the highways and the byways, they are literally compelled to come in. Listen.

I texted my niece today and I was like listen to. The Lord is talking to me about her. And I texted her and I was like you aren’t supposed to be Jesus to anybody, you’re supposed to be his friend so you can manifest him. You can’t change people, but he can. It’s not your job to be Jesus, it’s your job to be in him and he and you and you’ll bear much fruit, but without him you’ll do nothing. How do we become a warrior? How do we lay down our lives? We find ourselves lovesick.

We go back. Listen. Faith that works is dead. Do the works. But we go back full circle. Remember when you first fell in love, remember when you got born. Again I do. I was so unbelievably grateful that he would wash my slate clean and then, daily, I try to remind myself I was so, so messed up. I’m so not worthy to be standing on this platform. And then I remember See, we got to go back that remembrance.

And when the power of God I heard Bill Johnson say this when the power of God moves and the sick are healed, the dead are raised, or somebody gets saved or somebody’s encouraged and they say I’m so thankful for you, you can receive that gratitude. But then you go into your inner room and you get on your knees and you take the honor and you say this belongs to you because we’re not going after false humility. You just take it and you lift it right back up and you live in this posture and this lifestyle and you become a witness of him. You seek him, move. You have become one who’s seen and heard.

And then the ethical witness, the true witness. What is ethics, morality, right, ethics is like I’m going to stay in line with the thing that I’ve been told to do, taught to do an ethical witness. Actually, they have laid down their life. I’ve witnessed that Jesus laid down his life, so therefore I’m willing to do the same. That’s how someone finds themselves at that place. They don’t theologically understand that. I’d say Joan of Arc didn’t have a clue. If you really study this girl out. She just loves sick, she just believes she saw and she heard and she gonna do it because she was a teenager and that’s what he’s calling us to.

I’m gonna look at this. I’ve kind of flipping through my notes a little bit here and there. So so it at the end of the age and even now, whether or not it’s all the things are coming down. We’re gonna face opposition. We’re gonna face people who are gonna be like you know, scoffers, you know say like this scoffers are gonna scoff. Right, we say haters are gonna hate, scoffers are gonna scoff, mockers are gonna mock. We’ve got to know how to stand in the face of that. So let’s look at second Peter 3, real quick, verse 3. Actually I don’t think I want to do verse 3. I think that’s what y’all have. Let’s look at second Peter 3, first 12.

For the eyes of the Lord are towards the righteous and his ears attend to their prayer, but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil. Who is there to harm you? If you prove zealous for what is good? Listen to this. This is your character. Your anointing will crush you. If you don’t have character, he’s putting as anointing on us. Who was there to harm you if you prove zealous for what is good? But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are blessed and do not fear their intimidation and do not be troubled, but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts. Always be ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you.

Yet, with gentleness and reverence, I’m gonna stop right there. I’m totally just following the fear right now. This is key. With gentleness and reverence, not with a spirit of accusation, not with a spirit of chrism. When mocking comes, when, when accusations come, you’re characters going to come into question, you go low. You become emboldened by the spirit of God and you speak the truth Without fearing and trembling, but in your heart, you go low.

If you go back to what we were talking about with John the Baptist to begin with, he knew how to go low. He taught us to go low. He is the one that prepared the way of the Lord. As the generation comes forth right now to begin to prepare the way of the Lord, you will be emboldened by the power of the spirit. You’re gonna see signs and wonders and miracles, but you’re gonna come, accusations are gonna come against you. Listen, we love I do media ministry. We love the platform we love to be, to be able to reach masses of people at once. But most people are not prepared for what comes after you, after, whenever you go and you reach masses of people, it’s hard enough to reach five, because people are going to be offended, the spirit of accusations, satan will come and he will put Accusations in their mind against you. The very one you’re trying to reach will come against you.

And listen, we’re talking about persecution and laying down our lives. This is how it happens. This is the, how it says at the end of the age that brother will betray above brother, even under death. And so if we don’t know how to go low, if we don’t know how to ride, listen, it’s gonna sound like it doesn’t make sense. We’ve got to go low.

In our heart does humility? But rise above the warfare and sit with him in heavenly places. We gaze on him. We say what are you saying? What are you doing? Jesus, help me to bleed love. Jesus, helped me to be like you, walk like you, be humble. Jesus was the humblest, kindest man. You see the power of the living God that flows through a faithful witness, an Apostolic messenger at the end of the age, is the one who was willing to go low and not come into agreement with any Thing that is like Satan.

Listen, listen, jesus said that Satan had nothing in him. There was nothing like Satan in Jesus. Therefore, jesus was able to conquer death, hell in the grave, and we are called to go low and come out of agreement with anything that looks like Satan. The spirit of accusation will point the finger at you From the head listen, then the someone’s head that will come up with complete, total bunk, right, craziness, and you are going to want to go low and you are going to want to defend yourself. But God is calling you to rise above that and Sit with him in heavenly places, get his heart, get his desires, get his word.

I have practiced doing this on a daily basis in seasons. Literally. I can hear in this some of what God has given me as a spiritual give, that I can hear accusations and I will go before the Lord and I will say, Lord, I come out of agreement of every whisper, every lie, every Accusation that’s come against me and anything in my heart where I am agreeing with accusations to get someone else Listen. It’s not just an action that you do, it is the power of God that it will be released upon you to be able, as you bless those who curse you, to be able to transform lives. I Don’t have time to go into it, but when my daughter, my art, my daughter, almost passed away this time last year, she’s covering her face. She hates when I tell the story. She’s okay.

God was teaching me this process. Rise above it. Rise above it. Rise above it like on a daily basis. Rise above it. Rise above it. Rise above the accusation, rise above the lies. Come and sit with me. Do what I’m doing, say what I’m saying.

I was teaching on it online. I was teaching on the spirit of Leviathan, and Jaden ended up in the hospital. Long and short of it is God like, gave her a new heart, new kidneys, new lungs. She is an absolute miracle. But I had begun to learn how to sit above the chaos before we ever walked into that hospital room. And Then, whenever I was at a conference I don’t know, several months ago, a Person that you guys would probably know, but he comes up to me and he says you know that the key reason, and I don’t want to formulate miracles, but he said one of the key reasons that you’re seeing the miracles in your life and in your family is because you’ve learned how to rise above accusation, accusation, okay.

This is why this is so important. If Jesus is a faithful witness, even under death, and he dies for those who are accusing him, how much more so do we take up that cross and Deny ourselves so that we can walk in the power of the resurrection? But go back to verse 14. But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are blessed and do not fear their intimidation and do not be troubled, but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts and be ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you. Yet, with gentleness and reverence, and keep a good conscience so that in the thing in which you were slandered, those who revile you, your good behavior in Christ will be put to shame. You don’t have time to go through all of it.

September 7, 2023/by Tammie Southerland

Burning Messengers Podcast

Navigate Crisis with Prophetic Insight and Spiritual Resilience

Ready to arm yourself with divine intelligence and spiritual strength in the face of tumultuous times? Imagine tapping into the prophetic access to intimacy with the Father and hearing His voice even when everything around you is in crisis. That’s what we’re exploring in this enlightening episode. We recall a word and vision I received in 2018 about the burning olive branch – an emblematic warning of impending challenges, but also a blueprint for surviving and thriving in times of upheaval.

Today’s episode was originally a part of Lana Vawser’s Whole Woman Series. You can visit lanavawser.com to learn more about her ministry and courses. You can also subscribe to her new Zion’s Company Of Women Podcast.

Ever wondered about the superpower of repositioning your heart? It’s a power rooted in intimacy and knowledge of God, one that empowers women to laugh without fear of the future. We take a deep look at Proverbs 31, Psalm 2, and the story of Elijah, drawing parallels and lessons that underline the essence of trust in God. Along the journey, we illuminate the importance of being spiritually strong, whole, and prepared for the Lord’s arrival, with Proverbs 31 as our guiding light.

As we wrap up, we contemplate the art of interpreting the signs of the times and the pivotal role of prayer. Drawing from scriptures like Matthew 16:3, Isaiah 16:19, and Hebrews 11, we aim to equip you on how to remain spiritually whole and strong in anticipation of the Lord’s coming. We also delve into the crucial matter of remaining watchful for the Lord’s movements, and interpreting them through intimacy and knowledge of God. So join us, absorb, and let’s navigate this enlightening episode together.

Where to dive in:

(0:00:01) – Hearing and Responding to God’s Voice

Hearing the Lord’s voice is essential for survival and thriving in crisis, with a strategy of the burning, yet not consumed, olive branch dripping oil.

(0:15:10) – The Superpower of Repositioning Your Heart

Women use God-given superpower to quench violence and trust Him, as seen in Proverbs 31, Psalm 2, and First Kings 19.

(0:30:33) – Preparing for the Lord’s Arrival

We must prepare spiritually and be strong women, looking to Proverbs 31 as an example, to experience joy, peace and safety in the Lord’s restoration of Shalom.

(0:39:18) – Ministry, Microphones, and Interpreting the Times

Interpreting signs, prayer, scripture examples, and Reese Howells’ example to be spiritually strong.

(0:55:53) – Burning Messengers

Prepare spiritually, interpret signs, and pray to watch the Lord’s movements.

About the host:

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Full Transcript

0:00:01 – Tammie Southerland
your circumstances, do not surprise him. If you can just be still, you will hear him, and it’s like the song. You know, all of a sudden I’m overwhelmed and all these afflictions are eclipsed by his glory. That’s where you will be, in the realm of the unspoken, and you’re practicing in circumstances, because times are going to get more difficult and, yes, the famine. Touch not the oil and the wine. I believe there will be famine around the earth. But what did he say? Touch not the oil and the wine. Listen to me, you have a destiny. You have. He’s got a plan for you and your children. Oh, guys, I am so thankful to be here. I’m carrying something right now and I’m just.

This is actually the first time I’ve released this publicly. Had a lot of back room conversations with friends and family about what the Lord is doing right now, in this hour, but it’s been pressing into my heart the the utter importance of being able to hear him, not just in the secret place. But this is. I’m going to talk to you about the unspoken realm and the voice of the Lord, and some of it is because what is coming in the next three months and next three years globally, we’re not going to be able to trust what we see and hear with our physical eyes or with our ears, or what we’re scrolling and we’re seeing on social media. We’re going to have to be able to lean into the trust of the Lord in this realm. We, we, we over spiritualize the realm of the spirit and a lot of times we think only certain people are really allowed into that realm. But we were all created to abide in him, to gaze on him, to behold him and to hear him and have knowledge of what he’s doing, what he’s saying, what’s going on in the earth. And so part of what I’m going to share with you is actually going to really tap into your identity, and it’s not just to to encourage you in your identity, it’s to prepare you.

You must be prepared, especially as women. Women, we tend to be very intuitive. Naturally, we tend to have, you know, just an awareness of what is going on. But at the same time, there is more for us. We don’t have to lean into just our intuition. We actually have more than intuition, but a prophetic access to intimacy with the Father. That gives us divine intelligence. And we, when we think of Romans 826, we think of when the spirit is praying for us when we don’t know what to pray. We think about we pray. We’re praying in tongues right, most of us think that’s our spirit language. We’re praying in tongues, but there’s so much more to the groanings of the spirit or the unspoken language of the spirit than what we think.

So I’m going to dive into this. We’re going to talk a little bit about Elijah. We’re going to talk about how God drew himself, or the Father drew himself, close to Elijah in the time of crisis, and we’re also going to connect that to where we are now. And I also want you to be thinking about family. I want you to be thinking about your kids and your grandkids and those who in your realm of influence, who you’re praying for, and and really let the Lord kind of transition you from leaning in on a frustration or a fear based prayer life into an unveiled, strategic prayer life where he’s taking you into, like Psalm 139, 16. I’ve been posting on that a little bit where there is all of the days written in your book or in his book, before one ever came to be, where you get to go into the place where you can know what’s in the daily bread that day and pray in that way, without fear of the future. That’s going to be key, very, very key, without fear of the future. And so one thing we’re going to go. If you look at the notes, um, you know, I kind of titled it. He’s in the whisper. Now this is going to be a little bit of a play on words, because he actually is not whispering. He is speaking in another realm, so his voice is a breath that’s coming forth in the realm of the spirit. We’re going to see this with Elijah, but he wants to pull us out, where it’s just a whisper, into its eight revelation or an unveiling. And so this is how to hear and respond to the unspoken voice of the Lord in the hour of crisis. Now, some of you may have heard me tell this story before.

In 2018, the Lord first gave me like, spoke to me audibly this, this word the unspoken in 2018. I’m in my bed, 3am, and I hear, like, I’m like, like I’m struck by the Lord in his voice and he says one word unspoken. That’s all he says. And I jolt up out of my bed and in that moment, oh, the dog is in the room. I’m sorry.

In that moment, I am like caught up and I’m seeing this vision of an olive branch and it’s burning, it’s, it’s it’s almost like Moses is Bush that was burning but not consumed. But it was an olive branch and the the olives were burning and they were dripping oil. And I began to pray in the spirit, in a prophetic voice but touch not the oil in the wine, but touch not the oil in the wine. Now, if you’re familiar with scripture, that’s from Revelation, where he is actually prophesying of a famine that would come. But the order to the angel was but touch not the oil and the wine. And so we’ve got these two elements the unspoken. The Lord’s using this language. And then he’s showing me an olive branch that is burning but not consumed, dripping oil, and so he’s giving me clues as to what’s to come and actually the strategy not just of survival but of thriving in an hour of crisis.

Okay, and so this is important because, in the end, when you’re in him right, lana’s done another whole course on in him when you’re in him, you are actually enveloped or in folded into him, you become one with him, and so you’re hidden, like Psalm 91, you’re hidden in the secret place of the most high, where the arrow that flies by day doesn’t touch you, right, and so you’re in him, in this unspoken realm, and then what the earth is experiencing as crisis is actually the labor pains of Romans eight, where the whole earth is groaning and the longing for what, the unveiling or the manifestation of the sons of God. And then that leads into that Romans 826. But when you know not what to pray, the spirit himself prays for you or through you, wordless, unspoken groanings. Right, that’s the. Are you? Are you following me?

So you’re in, folded into Christ in the hour of the earth experiencing crisis, when it’s actually in labor pains, and he’s taking you into a place where you’re praying, and he’s praying through you in another realm. That perfect prayer, yes, but it’s also a whisper, a a, an infolding or a drawing you into a realm that’s not experiencing crisis, but it’s experiencing labor. Okay, so this is what. This isn’t just what we get to do. This is what we were redeemed for In the hour, that which we would live. There should be no fear, because perfect love drives out all fear. Fear has to do with torment, and so this is actually us being delivered from the flesh.

Glacians, chapter five, talks about the deeds of the flesh versus the fruit of the spirit. So we’re delivered from the deeds of the flesh, or the experience of the flesh, or the reactions of the flesh, to walk in the spirit, in the realm of what Elijah would call the steel small voice of the Lord. The whisper of the Lord is actually the Romans 826, grown of the spirit. We are seated with him to get divine intelligence of how to respond, not react, in the hour of crisis. Okay, that was a mouthful right. Okay, so that was just the introduction, and so we’re looking at this.

But this is just so important. I’m not really trying to necessarily wow you with revelation. I want to equip you because you have to be able to not just feel the excitement of this word. I know your spirit man’s coming, but it’s got to penetrate deeper, because what we’re walking into I’m not, you know, I’m sure globally, but also especially in the United States, with us approaching a time of elections what we’re about to walk into and I do believe it’s global is going to be a three month period of time where the Lord is charging us to be steel and begin to allow ourselves to retrain the way that we pick up on what is going on around us instead of picking up on what’s going around us, he’s inviting us up to a place, in a that ascended place, where we’re retraining our senses, our intuition, to not focus on what’s in front of us or what is seen, but on what is unseen, not to even hear what we hear, but to listen for the unspoken realm where things are unveiled, as the whole earth is laboring for the sons of God to be revealed at the end of the age. And so this is going to be important, so that we can pull his will on earth, as it is in heaven, in an hour of crisis. And so I believe there’s a three year period, there’s a three month period and there’s also a three year period.

The Lord specifically shared with me, with us, at least in the United States, that this coming election really does. It matters, don’t get me wrong, it matters, but it doesn’t matter in the sense of the direction that we’re going, because there’s been a global shift and we’ve talked about the new era, but there’s been a global shift where things have been set in motion and those things are in motion, and now is the time of shaking, where everything that can be shaken will be shaken, but that which the kingdom, by the way, is not able to be shaken, will begin to arise, but it’s going to require the people of the kingdom to function as though they are of the kingdom right, not looking at the wind, of the waves, but listening for the voice of the Lord. And so I’ve got here points to remember, just so you can go back. I want to hit these points, but I’m really just going to flow with the Holy Spirit as I teach this, and so if you look at these points, I’ll go over them with you.

Number one the whisper and the breath of God is in the realm of the unspoken. So if you want to attach Romans 826 to that, you can. That Romans 826 is not just a grown, it says wordless, and we don’t usually take that in. It says wordless groanings. He prays through us with wordless groanings, and so that indicates when you’re gripped by God and yet you have no words. He has language, and so the groan of the spirit is not without language in the realm of the spirit. It’s only without language in the realm of the flesh, or the realm of what is seen by our physical eyes, what is heard by our physical ears. But in the realm of the spirit. There is definitely language for what he is praying and he’s inviting us into those prayers, not just to mindlessly pray. That is the beginning.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. So that’s the beginning of the spiritual reality. But it’s not the end. It’s an invitation. So you’re going to begin to ask the Lord to give you divine intelligence or interpretation to what you’re praying in the wordless realm and you’re going to learn how to listen and hear him, even in the silence. And so, number two the voice of fear, intimidation and pressure to perform will deceive and project false information. Please hear me when I say that I’m going to read that again. The voice of fear, intimidation and pressure to perform will deceive us and project false information. So we’re going to be very, very careful in this season to not look at information, whether it’s factual or not, as the prophetic word of the Lord. If it is fear and intimidation and pressure to perform, you will not be able to trust it. It will not be the word of the Lord. You will find the only way you’re going to have peace in this season is to be seated in the realm of the Spirit, and that is where perfect peace is, by the way.

Number three discerning the times and the seasons and the days to come requires we ascend and we be seated with Christ. Now, here’s the thing about us being ascended. Most of us know this, we’ve taught it so much over the past few years. But Ephesians 2, 6 is not where you strive to sit, it’s where you are seated, and so there is an element of spiritual rest in this urgency. Right, it’s not a hastiness, it’s not the hastiness of the hour, it’s the urgency of the hour, and so this means we are seated with Him. We are seated with Him in heavenly realms. You don’t have to strive your way there by the blood of the Lamb and the word of your testimony. You have been redeemed, you have overcome, you are seated. You do not have to strive and clean up to get there, but there is an element of holiness, absolutely there’s an element of holiness and purity, but you are seated with Him in heavenly places.

Number four respond. Responding to hear. I don’t know what I wrote there Repositioning. I wrote repositioning, repositioning your heart to hear amid chaos is your superpower. Okay, women, let me explain this to you. You have a superpower. I love my husband and the men in my life, but we have a superpower to quickly reposition our hearts and hear from the Lord and respond without fear of the future.

Proverbs 31, verse number five is exactly what I’m talking about. This woman responds to the future events without fear, and so you have been given a superpower of, yes, intuition, but prophetic knowledge of God out of the place of intimacy where you know that, you know that you know you can trust Him because he’s your bridegroom, so you can quickly reposition your heart, because your heart longs for intimacy, in order to cast out all fear, that you can stand firm in an hour of chaos, because you know there is no chaos in your bridegroom. You know this because you know Him, and so the superpower is intimacy and the knowledge of God and how to respond. Please remember that. Yes, she laughs without fear of the future. I love it. I’m gonna hit on that in a minute because it parallels Psalm two. By the way, the Proverbs 31 woman parallels Psalm two where the Father has the Son ask of me and I’ll give you the nations as my Azure inheritance. And it says that when the nations rage, he laughs.

Did you know that the Proverbs 31 woman laughs at the rage of the nations? I’m telling you, if you only understood what you have in beholding Him and being seated with Him. And it’s so important in what’s coming because, listen, my pastor’s wife preached Sunday morning and she said, if women ruled the world, the only problem would be we would build up so much offense and we wouldn’t talk to each other. But if all men ruled the world, there would be no, nothing left because they would always pull out their sword and destroy one another. And that’s why we need each other. That’s why we need to run together. Men and women need to run together in this, because we have a superpower to be able to quench I should say we’re able to quench the violence of the passions of our husbands and the men in our life, because we have the ability to hear from Him in the place of intimacy. We can laugh without fear of the future. We get that aspect of Him.

Okay, so first Kings, chapter 19, 11 to 13. I’m gonna read this to you, but I want you to hear this very, very prophetically. Right now. There’s several elements that we’re gonna kind of swirl through in this. I want you to notice something we talk a lot about five fold ministry. We talk a lot about the new move, right, the new wine skin move. These are kind of like key phrases that are being thrown out right now.

Elijah is a prophet. He is a prophet, an Old Testament prophet, a prophet of prophets. Okay, and in this passage, elijah has just taken out the prophets of Baal. He had a showdown, he sat back, he was chill. Let them do their thing, let them cut themselves, let them have all their whatever to try to call down their gods, and their gods didn’t move. He’s even poking at them, making fun of them throughout this process. He comes, it’s his time to go. He pours water, he does every physical thing that would hinder fire from falling. And guess what? God moves. He pours out the fire. It consumes everything and God is made to be known as Yahweh, the God of all creation, the ruler of all, and the prophets of Baal are slaughtered. The next thing we know, elijah the prophet gets a letter from Jezebel threatening his life, and he is immediately in fear. Okay, this is a true prophet.

We talk about five fold ministry and the prophets and the apostles and all the things, but this dude knows, god hears, god has the boldness, he’s moving in it. He’s doing the thing. Okay, jezebel sends him a letter. He’s freaking out, he heads to the cave. He tells God to take his life. Like, almost like a spirit of suicide comes over him because he’s truly consumed, he truly believes he’s alone. There’s nobody else there with him. Like he’s done. Okay, he is done. He is in the hour of crisis and in his mind it is over. Okay, we’re going there right now.

So first, kings 19,. I’ve got 11 to 13 on here. I’m going to read up just a little bit further. I want you to see this point right here, where he says in 19, verse four but he himself went on a day’s journey into the wilderness. He came and he sat down under the juniper tree and he requested for himself that he might die and he said it’s enough. Now, lord, take my life, for I am not better than my father’s. And he laid down and he slept under the juniper tree and, behold, there was an angel touching him and said arise and eat. And then he looked and behold, there was at his head bread and baked on hot stones in a jar of water, and he ate and a drink. And the angel of the Lord came and he said a second time and touched him arise and eat, because the journey is too great for you. Okay, okay.

So he’s in this place. He has eight knees, drank and there’s been 40 days and 40 nights. He’s in the mountain of God and now, in verse nine, he came to a cave and he lodged there. And then the Lord said to him what are you doing here, elijah? And he said I’ve been very, very zealous. And see, here he goes again. He’s discouraged again. Okay. And he says I have been very zealous, for the Lord, the God of host, and the sons of Israel have forsaken your covenant and tore down your alters and killed your prophets with the store, the sword, and I, along, am left, and they seek my life to take it away. And he said go forth and stand on the mountain of the Lord and behold, the Lord was passing by.

Now, listen, this is important. I want you to think about where we are right now as a nation, all of the things that are taking place, I should say as a globe right. All the things are taking place, the fears that are coming out. We’re hearing rumors of wars. We’re hearing about famine that’s possibly coming. We’re looking at all of these things that are swirling. They are the signs of the times. I’m going to talk about that in a minute.

We’re hearing the prophets prophesy. We’re hearing people that are building like we’ve got to build the five fold. We’ve got to get the five fold in place. We’re hearing people say there’s a mass exodus of the church coming. Everybody’s leaving the church. And then we’re hearing the church say everybody that’s leaving the church is in rebellion and like we’ve got all these things going on around, and some people are feeling like Elijah in this moment, and they’re feeling like what was me? Everything’s over, nobody’s listening, everything’s in chaos. Listen, I feel the groan of my own spirit. You know, the child sex trafficking, all of these things are shaking and all of these things are manifesting in our earth right now, and we want to look at all of these things in massive discouragement and fear will wash over us. And so this is what God’s doing. He’s taking Elijah in this moment. He’s fed him, he’s nourished him, he’s brought angels to him, yet still Elijah can’t really perceive the Lord.

Now, first of all, I want you to see how the father draws near in Elijah’s crisis. The father did not leave him abandoned, he did not throw him out. He didn’t say oh well, you’re, you’re no good to be my prophet anymore. The father draws near, he nourishes him, he cares for him, he feeds him. So his physical needs are important. But watch this.

And so it says verse 11, go forth and stand on the mountain before God, before the Lord. And behold, the Lord was passing by and a great and strong wind was rending the mountains and breaking them into pieces in the rocks. Before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind. And after the wind and earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake. And after the earthquake of fire, but the Lord was not in the fire. And after the fire, a gentle blowing. And when Elijah heard it, he wrapped his face in his mantle and went out and stood in the entrance of the cave and behold, a voice came. Listen to this, he wraps his face in his mantle. There’s been storms, there’s been earthquakes, there’s been fire. He did not tremble, he did not shake until the voice came. He wraps his face. Do you remember Moses? He veils his face because of the glory. He wraps his face in his mantle because he heard a voice. Okay, listen to the voice. And a voice came to him and said what are you doing here, elijah and he said I have been very zealous for the Lord. I have hosed the sons of Israel, forsaken your covenant, torn down your altars, they killed your prophets and with the sword, I alone am left and they seek to take it away. And the Lord said to him Go and return to the wilderness, to Damascus, where you’ve arrived. And he sends him back. So I’m going to pause right there.

Most of the time we take this force of Scripture and we say he wasn’t in all the things, but he was in the still small voice. He was just in the still small voice. I want you to hear me say this. That was not a teeny, tiny voice. There was a lot of ruckus and a lot of commotion and a lot of things, and Elijah was not moved in the midst of those things. But God made it clear to him I’m not in the elements. I’m not what in you see. I’m not in what you hear. I’m not what in they, what they say. I’m not in what Jezebel says. I’m not what in what you think. I am in a realm. Elijah, come up here where you can get clarity.

And Elijah, when he hears the voice, that word voice is translated as the very breath of God.

It is a breath. It was a sound. It was a sound in the realm that Elijah had to abide in to be able to face what he was stepping into, and he had to remember the mantle that he had been mantled with. And that mantle didn’t just sit on his shoulders, he needed that mantle to wrap his entire head. It was very similar, I believe, in the parallel to the helmet of salvation Cover your head, listen. It’s even like the. I think about the seraphim Cover your head, cover your faces. It’s him. He is here and his voice literally breaks the cedars. This is a voice that is teeny, tiny and it’s not whispering, and it’s not just momentary, and it’s not this thing. When the Lord came to me in 2018 and he rattled me out of my bed and he said the word unspoken, it was not a whisper. It was so strong because it came from the inside of me out and maybe sit up straight. You see the unspoken voice. The realm of the unspoken is where we have to abide in the days to come. If not, we will be exactly where Elijah is feeling alone, feeling persecuted, feeling abandoned, feeling threatened, and we will look at the fire. Listen, let’s go here. Let’s go here right now, okay, matthew 16. Let’s look at this real quick. I think that’s where I want to go. Hold on, wait a minute, no, no, no.

Matthew 24. Matthew 24 prophesies the words of Jesus of the end of the age. Okay, go take me just a second, because this was not planned. So, if you look at Matthew 24, so Matthew 24, 7. That’s where it is, matthew 24, 7. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. You will see them and not be alarmed. But these things must happen, for the end is still to come.

Okay, national rising its nation, kingdom against kingdom, there will be famines and earthquakes in various places, and all of these are the beginning of the birth pains. Okay, go back to Romans 8. The labor pains of creation. All of creation is groaning for the unveiling of the sons of God. These things will take place, but do not be alarmed, because these are the beginning of the labor pains.

What did Elijah experience? Elijah experienced these elements the earthquakes, the wind, the fire, all of these things. But what did God say? I was not in those things. He said come up here. Revelation 4. Come up here, Elijah, sit with me. Come up here and be seated in my realm. See, he’s going to send him back out and he’s going to take his mantle that he just wrapped on his face and he’s going to anoint Elijah, the next generation.

It’s not over. We’re going to prepare, as though it is, if we read all of Matthew 24, we’re going to prepare for the coming of the Lord. He’s coming, but we’re not going to draw back into our caves of fear. We are women who are whole. You’re going to be mentally strong. You’re going to be physically strong. You’re going to be spiritually strong. You’re going to know how to sit with the Lord. You’re going to know how to prepare.

In that, proverbs 31, woman, she’s preparing. She gets up while it’s still night. Listen, she’s preparing in the dark time for the light that has come. She’s also preparing for when there is no more light, when the darkness comes. She’s living in constant, in this constant place of connection with the Lord. It’s not about her physical realm. She has a divine intuition about her that she knows how to get up and feed and prepare. Listen, it says that she had made servants. I believe she had the women whom she was discipling, who they were working together in her home. Yes, they were servants of hers. But I believe that this woman was discipling women. She was preparing to feed them in when it was still dark so that in the day her children would be taken care of, her family would be taken care of, she could go survey a field and she was going to buy it, because she laughs without fear of the future.

And so we’re going to live in the state of preparation, but not enter into the spirit of fear. We’re going to retrain our hearts and our minds because, as you have intuition, you will pick up on everything, but you’re going to retrain your heart and mind to not pick up on all the chatter of the earth, though it will be signs to come of his coming. They, it is true, it is real, it is the signs of this coming, but you’re going to know that it is actually the groan of all creation for the sons and daughters of God to stand in their rightful place and pull the kingdom of heaven into the earth in the hour crisis to anoint the next generation Church. You ever underestimate the power of the season that you’re in If you’re a young mom, pouring into your children, preparing food for them, preparing food for your husband, loving on your husband, your grandchildren, the children that are around you in church, the young ones. Do not neglect or misunderstand the beauty of that season where you’re wrapping your mantle around a generation, preparing them for the very thing that could be the hour at which the Lord would return. Listen, you have no idea the power that you walk in as a woman.

We’re going to go back over here, and so if we look at this, the still small voice, it’s not simply a whisper. It’s the Lord breathing and drawing us into another realm, away from the rage of the nations. Psalm 2,. Why did the nations rage? Why do my peoples plot in vain? Ask of me and I’ll give you the nations as your inheritance. He laughs. He laughs at the rage of the nations. This voice, this realm, this whisper, this calling is to put within you a literal joy. When the rest of the world is literally writhing in fear and in pain, he’s putting the word in your mouth to give his son his rightful inheritance through you as a mom, as a wife, as a woman, as an influencer in the nations, to be able to draw in the Lamb’s reward of his suffering.

Do not misunderstand or neglect to understand the power of the one or two that is seated in front of you and so if you look down I talked about this a little bit in the notes there’s a pause as you reposition yourself to hear and operate from this realm. When the Lord begins to pause things around you do not misunderstand what he’s doing there’s going to be a holy hush that’s going to wash over us. It’s going to feel like everything’s stopped. Do not fear, for he is repositioning your heart and your ears to be fully prepared. He’s restoring Shabbat all over the world in this hour. He’s restoring Shalom all over the world in this hour. Be speaking peace and safety in your soul, when all of the earth is saying you are not safe, there is no peace.

Listen, wars, rumors of wars, famine, listen, famine. I told my husband this the other day Famine will not touch us. It’s the oil in the wine. But touch, not the oil in the wine. We do not have to be afraid. He literally listen, we’re talking about meat shortages right now. He owns the cattle on a thousand heels. That’s for his children.

Now, don’t get me wrong. Suffering plays a part in releasing the glory, because it forms glory in us, it forms trust in us. Do not misunderstand me, it’s the both and in this season. But he promises I’ve never seen his seed forsaken I mean the righteous forsaken, or his seed begging bread. But do we believe that? And I told my husband this the other day I believe the reason that even Israel experienced famine is because they did not believe. They turned to idolatry. They started believing in the idols of the land over Yahweh. If we can just believe that he is who he says he is, we will not have to be afraid. And even now, like I feel like, even as I say that, like some people are like but, but, but, but, but but we need to remove the but so that we can be where we’ve been called to be. He did not place us in this hour by accident. He knew what he was doing.

A spiritual son of mine sent me a dream, I don’t know, four years ago, three or four years ago, and he and I were in Israel and we had superpowers and it was literally the end of the age. It was literally like all the things in the book of Revelation were happening and he and I had these superpowers where we could literally like, we didn’t have to worry about food, we were translated in different places, we could put people out, we can. You know, it’s like all the things, maybe like all the Marvel movies, I don’t know All these supernatural powers, but in the dream, when the powers that became, we had to actually put on our basically in a veil over us in order to hide the glory or hide the powers, so that we could continue to bring salvation or bring deliverance to the people, because we didn’t need to be arrested. It was not yet our time. Right and see, I believe this is what the Lord is going to do, as the nation’s rage and plot in vain. The Lord himself raises a standard and he draws his people into a greater revelation of him and if we believe, if we will agree with him touching anything, if we will talk about him, if we will glorify him, he drops into that conversation and into that gathering of one or two, or two or more, and he begins to manifest the greatest powerful deliverance that the world has ever seen. But it doesn’t look like what we thought it was going to look like. Sometimes it might look like just being hidden in him and two or more. It may not and probably will not look like massive platform.

Ministry. You may have a massive, massive, mighty call in your life and never have a microphone in your hand. You were. You were born for such a time as this. You were born to bring deliverance to captives. You were born to heal the sick. You were born to raise up children into the ways of the Lord, so you can launch them. I believe, in the days to come, all of these platform stuff is really not going to matter. I’m thankful for it because I’m able to talk to you right now all over the world through the internet.

But listen, this is not the main thing. Many of you watching me right now. You have the ability to step into the fullness that God has called you to, but you are waiting on someone to hand you a microphone or invite you to speak, and the Lord is saying no, come up here. I got to show you some things because I’m going to use you in stealth mode. Did you know that the unspoken realm, have you ever noticed that God operates from hiddenness? Have you ever noticed that the angels operate from hiddenness? Have you ever noticed the Holy Spirit operates from hiddenness? Do you know what a beautiful invitation it is into the place of intercession that you can operate from hiddenness and you can literally believe God that he would use you to literally shift history and nations, with your prayers Hidden, hidden. The Lord himself is hidden and these broken vessels Chew on that for just a minute. So Matthew 16.3,.

This is actually a rebuke. But listen, he says in the morning this is what, the way that they are, they are determining what is taking place. In the morning. You say today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast. You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. That’s a rebuke. So look at Isaiah 16.19 and think about that in connection with the sky, interpreting the signs and knowing when it’s morning and when it’s night. Isaiah 16.19.

Jump over there with me. This is the hope of the future, and the sun will be no more be your light by day, nor will brightness of the moon shine on you, for the Lord will be your everlasting light and God will be your glory. The sun shall no longer be your light. So who’s your light? The sun S-O-N. The sun is our light. The sun Jesus is our guide when the fullness of time comes, those elements that cause us to know when it’s morning and when it’s evening and when the storm is coming and when the earthquakes coming and when the famines coming and when all the things.

Listen, you don’t have to be on the internet or on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram for more than like two minutes and you everybody knows when everything is coming. But how many are actually letting the sun be their light? How many can actually interpret the times and the seasons? And Matthew, he’s rebuking them because the Messiah, the Kingdom, has come and it’s right in front of them. But they cannot see Because they’re looking at what’s in front of their faces but not what is in front of their heart, what their spirit? Listen, how did they understand that Jesus was with them after he had been resurrected? They said did our hearts not burn within us? They couldn’t recognize because they’re looking at everything else. What you feed will grow. What you starve will die. If you feed your fear, you will be full of fear. If you feed your spirit and feast on him. He’s inviting us to a table in this season. If you will feast on him and, by the way, that table is set in the presence of our enemies you will see by the light of the sun and you will not determine whether it’s morning or evening, according to what the elements or the internet says. Listen, this is our promise. So, number five, we’re going to abide in prayer and we’re not going to fear. I’ve already hit Psalm 91.5 and Proverbs 31.25.

Hebrews 11 is one of my favorite chapters. Obviously, we hear it as the faith chapter, but Hebrews 11 also talks about those who did not receive their promise. It talks about the ones that were martyred and persecuted and sawn into. They were the ones of whom the world was not worthy. But it also talks about where the weak were made strong and they escaped the edge of the sword. They shut the mouths of lions and they put foreign armies to flight. You see, the weakness that is in us, yielded fully to him. When we close off all of the things that are terrifying in the earth, in our weakness, we come to him. He makes us strong and I find it amazing, having just come from Wales and then where Reese Howells prayed during World War II, that this portion of Scripture in Hebrews 11 says that they put foreign armies to flight. Reese Howells, I’m sure during World War II they thought that was, it was over, but they prayed with divine intelligence. They heard from the Lord what to pray, how to pray, when to pray, how long to pray. And they literally saw battles like the battle at Dunkirk and different other battles. They watched the Lord move and transition and shut down foreign armies because of prayer and intercession. That was abiding in him and not in what their eyes saw. How much more did he have for us?

When we were in Wales, I was on the floor in that blue room in that place I call it the blue room where the intercession went forth. Emma I think Emma Smith’s on here Emma was with us in Wales. So much fun to Emma, so powerful. But in that place, like we’re wailing and we’re weeping and like the glories in there and we’re in the intercessions of old, like it literally felt like we were with them in their intercessions. We were taking hold of the prayers that they had prayed and we were pulling them into our generation.

And the Lord said this to me and I literally started trembling. He said, where they were praying for a war to end, your generation is praying for a war to begin. And I began to cry out and just make ready your bride, make ready your bride, make ready your bride. And that’s what he’s doing and we’re groaning and we’re weeping and we’re crying out in him, in that unspoken realm, with the wordless prayers God, would you move? Would you come and start a war in our generation that would bring forth the fullness of your glory and elevate your kingdom and show what is unshakable in this world, in this side of eternity? He’s moving, guys, but we cannot be afraid. We cannot play pray from the place of fear.

And so, at the bottom of this I’m not really sure how far I’m in time wise yeah, I think I’m right there. So I’ve got some questions for you guys. I really want you to look at this as introspection for yourself personally, and I want to tell you this I’m probably going to release a podcast next week, or maybe this week, on the sphere thing, because it’s really driving me nuts, to be honest, like the way that people are moving in fear. We cannot move in that sphere of fear. We cannot move in that sphere of fear. Let me say it again we cannot move in the sphere of fear in this hour. It will not work and it’s bothering me. It’s bothering me in my spirit, in my soul, and here’s the thing about it. He’s delivering us up out of it, and I’m probably going to do a podcast on it because it’s urgent.

But there’s a way that you have to know if you’re functioning from fear or if you’re functioning from faith, for lack of a better word. You’re functioning from the spirit. It’s by the way that you react or respond, and so we might be living in the hour of urgency, but we are never to move out of haste. If you move in haste, or if you move from reaction instead of response, that means you’ve not pulled back to listen, to wash away all the things of the earth. Listen, it’s like Jesus letting Jesus come wash your feet. You sit back and you let him wash your feet and you do not move in haste. In the hour of crisis, you do not move out of fear. Some indicators of fear physiological and emotional indicators of fear can be black and white thinking, reacting versus responding. Nejart reactions hoarding is an indicator that you’re moving from a spirit of fear. Go to the word.

When you read something or you consume something on the internet, your heart starts just beating really wildly, but not in a way of like oh, I’m in the presence of the Lord, wild or not. Oh, I’m going to groan in the spirit wild, but I’ve got to do something wild. Right, I can’t breathe wild Like we got to do something right now. Ok, we’ve got to be able to know the difference in the spirit of fear and the urgency to prepare. This is so incredibly important because we can respond by pausing and awaiting. And the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, will come in and give wisdom, but that’s not where it ends. Wisdom is the beginning. You need understanding, you need the sevenfold spirit of God. You need the power of God, the might of the Lord, you need the strength of the Lord. You want it. You need to wait on him.

I used to be, I listen, I can tell you, I used to be one of the most urgent people because I’m like, I’m a prophet blah, blah, blah. Like we got to go, we got to do this, we got to make this change. We got to know, know all of that. I may be hearing, I may be seeing, but the Lord is never pushy, he’s never hasty, he’s never worried, he’s never concerned and full of fear. He gives divine intelligence. He tells us to chew on it, wait on it. Jesus was in the earth for 30 years before he ever stepped fully into his ministry. He spent three years in it. He pours out his spirit for a bunch of people that don’t have a clue what they’re doing. To finish the work Okay, to do the work. He is not afraid. He’s not moving out of worry and fear and concern. He knows the day that he will return, he knows when he’s coming and you’re not going to be found sleeping. You’re not going to be found without watching, but you’re going to be found love-sick Instead of in worry, concern and haste, because you’re in love with him.

A love song of Solomon. I can teach that at another time, but throughout the book of song of Solomon I noticed that the bride, the sulemite I used to think she was in haste and worry. She actually just wanted to just do what she wanted to do. She knew where he was all along, even when he’s drawing her out and she endures persecution you can look at this later but she knew where he was. She knew he was in his garden. She knew he wanted her in his garden. She didn’t want to get up out of her bed when he was knocking, but she finally did so he drew her out. She knew where he was and we know that.

He knows where he is and we know that his plan is perfect. We have to believe and trust that our bridegroom loves us, cares for us, has a plan for us. And if this is not going to take him by surprise, none of it. Your moment you’re in right now does not surprise him. Your circumstances do not surprise him. If you can just be still, you will hear him, even it’s like the song. You know, all of a sudden, I’m overwhelmed, and all these afflictions are eclipsed by his glory. That’s where you will be, in the realm of the unspoken, and you’re practicing in circumstances, because times are going to get more difficult. And, yes, the famine, touch not the oil and the wine. I believe there will be famine around the earth. But what did he say? Touch not the oil and the wine. Listen to me, you have a destiny. You have, he’s got a plan for you and your children. No fearing, no fearing.

Okay, all that being said, I’m going to pray for you guys real quick and then I would like, if we have just a few minutes, I would like to answer some questions, if you guys have questions. I know this is a lot. This was deep. I’m barely scraping the surface with the unspoken and that voice of the Lord in that place of the realm of the spirit. If you have questions, I’ll try to answer them, but right now just let me pray for you in the name of Jesus.

I command every spirit of fear, all the terror, all the lies of the enemy to be silent in the name of Jesus. And I speak to your soul right now and I command it to come into alignment with the spirit of God. And I say to your soul your mind, your will and emotions, go where you belong, into the submission of the spirit of the Lord. You will not dictate the times and the seasons. And I say to your spirit come up here and come into full alignment with Christ here. See and know I’m speaking right now. I’m speaking with spiritual ears and eyes are going to be opened.

I command every other voice that is not the voice of the Lord, that is not the voice of your father, to be silent in the name of Jesus, I just speak over you right now, that you’ll begin to bear the fruit of the spirit love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, self-control and that anxiety would no longer have a hold on you.

I command anxiety to go right now, in Jesus’ name. And I even say this, I even declare this anxiety will not have a hold on the women of this generation any longer, or the generation under us. In the name of Jesus, I command that demon from hell to submit to the blood of the Lamb in Jesus’ name and to leave every single believer right now that is watching in Jesus’ name. Fear, get out. In Jesus’ name, you will not have the first place. The presence of the Lord will have the first place in Jesus’ name. Okay, right now, when you just to proclaim that over yourself, take it and apply the blood to your family, to your children, your children are going to hear the voice of the Lord, your grandchildren are going to hear the voice of the Lord, and I declare over you peace and safety and divine intelligence in Jesus’ name.

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Thank you for listening to this episode of Burning Messengers. You don’t want to miss what’s coming next week, so if you haven’t subscribed, please do so wherever you listen to podcasts. And if this word touched your heart, please rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. To connect with Tammy, follow her on social media or visit frontlinemfireorg. You don’t have to burn alone.

August 31, 2023/by Tammie Southerland

Burning Messengers Podcast

Unlock the Secrets of Prayer and Discover Your Divine Destiny

Unlock the secrets of a meaningful prayer life and discover the divine blueprint for your life. We promise you an enlightening journey into the deep mysteries of prayer and the transformative power it can have on your destiny, as guided by Psalm 139, verse 16. You’ll gain insights into the metaphorical ‘daily bread’, a sustenance that feeds our faith, and into your destiny scroll – the divine plan for your life held in heaven with your name on it. Listen as we discuss the power of free will, the choice it gives us to dwell in God’s presence or stray from His path, and the revelation it brings about the purpose of our lives. This episode is not just about prayer. It’s about spiritual warfare, the reality of it and how powerful prayer can be your ultimate weapon. It’s an invitation to deepen your relationship with God, to have the courage to ask Him about His plans for you, and to grow in your relationship with Him. Our discussion extends to the concept of destiny, the essence of your divine plan and how to unlock it through prayer. So, hop on this soul-stirring journey and rediscover God, prayer, and your divine destiny in a whole new light.

About the host:

Buy Tammie’s Book “Permission to Burn: Breaking the Chains of Compromise from a Holy Generation” here⁠: ⁠https://a.co/d/cznvVYK

Transcript

0:00:00 – Tammie Southerland
There’s opportunities for you, even written within the Lord’s Prayer this is how we pray your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven to come into his presence daily, asking for his daily bread. What is daily bread? It’s the sustenance or substance of faith that you hope for in its evidence of his kingdom that you’ve not fully recognized, and so you come into his presence boldly and ask him for your daily bread, which is what have you written in your book for me before I ever came to be? I want to do what you’re doing, say what you’re saying and walk out the destiny that you’ve written for me. I’m going to tell you a scripture that’s going to change your life, psalm 139, 16. Your eyes saw my unformed substance and in your book, all of my days of my life were written before there was yet one of them. That’s the amplified version. This scripture talks about your destiny scroll. There is a scroll in heaven. There’s books in heaven, in case you didn’t know, and one of them, if not more, has your name on it. You see in that book, or all of your days, that the Lord has written before one ever been in this earth. You see, this scripture alone should invite you to with him in the heavenly realms and ask him what is written in your book. If you don’t understand anything else about prayer and intercession, it’s this one thing Come boldly to the throne of grace, where you shall receive mercy and you are seated with him in heavenly places. You hear me refer to this all the time, and the reason is because I don’t think we really understand the power of prayer. We do not understand what we’ve been invited into. So why should I worry if God knows? What I need we talked about in the last podcast is being free from fear. Psalm 139, 16 tells you that he’s got a plan for you. So the question is why do I not see his plan? Why is my day not amazing? Listen, it doesn’t say every day written in his book is amazing. It says he has every one of your days written in his book. He knows your end from beginning. If you don’t do anything else with the power of prayer, it would be to sit with him and ask him what he has written for you, about you and your family, and then you take the gift that you’ve been given, called prayer and intimacy with him through the blood of the lamb, and you ask him to do what is written in his scroll. There’s opportunities for you, even written within the Lord’s prayer this is how we pray your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven, to come into his presence daily asking for his daily bread. What is daily bread? It’s the sustenance or substance of faith that you hope for in its evidence of his kingdom that you’ve not fully recognized. And so you come into his presence boldly and ask him for your daily bread. Which is what have you written in your book for me before I ever came to be? I want to do what you’re doing, say what you’re saying and walk out the destiny that you’ve written for me.

You see, here’s the beauty of free will. Free will allows you to choose daily whether or not you’re going to dwell in him, in with him and abide in him, that you’ll bear much fruit, or will you go about your own way and then have to again lean into his mercy and straighten things out and come back into alignment with him? This is the journey of walking with Christ. So there’s no condemnation when you have not known that you had a scroll in heaven with your name on it, but now you do so. Therefore, there is grace for you to begin to enter into the revelation of who you are and what he’s written for you.

You want to know what your destiny is. Your destiny, your destiny to minister to the Lord, to stand firm, minister and burn to the Lord day and night and day. Your destiny is to be an awestruck wonder of who he is. Yes, you have entrance to see and know and understand the things that no one else sees and knows and understands, this dwelling in the earth and realm. You get to abide with him above the principalities, powers and rulers of darkness of this present age. That doesn’t rule out spiritual warfare. Spiritual warfare is real, but this gives you an entrance into the place of prayer and intercession where you can know. Now you’re saying, like Tammy, I don’t know how to know. The way you learn how to know him is ask him that you may know him and ask him that you may know what is written in his book. He would not have told you if he didn’t want you to come to. This is your invitation to.

Psalm 139 16 tells you clearly that he knows you. He’s got something written or planned for you and all you have to do is ask him. Psalm 139 16 tells you that you were created with a purpose and that you matter. When there was no form, you were there and so was he. Psalm 139, 16 tells you that you were created for intercession, not just called to pray, but you were created to stand with him to bring his wheel on the earth as it is in heaven. That’s one of the disciples asked.

Jesus teaches to pray. I’m teaching you right now to pray. Your will be done on the earth as it is in heaven. This is what you say to the Lord I want to see your kingdom come. Do you know that you are part of the answer to that prayer, the kingdom.

When John the Baptist said the repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. He was saying repent for the Messiah. The kingdom is here. He’s here, and so he says he has come, died, buried, been resurrected, he has given you his spirit so that you can be able to manifest or unveil his kingdom on earth as it is in heaven. So, no matter what happens, you are the answer to your own prayers when you are dwelling with him and abiding him. As he says Abide in me and I in you. You will bear much fruit. Without me, you can do nothing. When you’re abiding in it, the vine, then you are going to bring forth him, who is the vine, into the earth.

But that can’t be done without living a lifestyle of prayer and studying of the scriptures, because the scriptures help keep you aligned so that you know that you’re hearing from the right spirit. So I read that fear right now of hearing from the wrong spirit and I even bring correction to those of you who have been a little bit too frou-fru frou, frivolous in an area where you’ve not tried to lean in on the word of God and you may be hearing from the wrong spirit. You can’t get into the ditches. The way that you know that you’re hearing from God is it love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, self-control being released through your life. Not what you’re hearing may not feel peaceful, it may feel challenging, or it may feel convicting, or it may evoke a little fear To begin with, but you funnel that through the scriptures and through the word and you find your peace in abiding in him and trusting him. You’re developing a relationship with him. You’ve been given access to relationship, but we have to grow in that relationship, any relationship you have in your life.

I did already study one time that it takes I think it was like a total of 136 hours or something of spending time with a person to develop depth in relationship with them, and that relationship has to move from that initial place where you met, which would be like work or church or whatever, into another location, like a coffee shop, in order to deepen it, and from there a time where you spend like long hours together and talking about your heart. And with this 136 hours that it takes to truly develop depth in a relationship even needs to have a challenge, where you feel like the relationship is going to be torn apart and you, instead of running away, you draw to the relationship you have and you’ve been invited into with God. It’s very similar to that. This is a journey. Your relationship with him is grown and developed in prayer.

Again, behold, he is God, for we do not know him. That scripture means there’s so much more to know of him. But guess what? Behold, he is God and he fully knows you. He knows everything there is to know about you. He knows more about you than he knows what he’s written for you. So I want to challenge you to access your destiny Scroll today when you go into the place of prayer. When you sit with the Lord, don’t let anxiety settle in on you. Don’t let fear settle in on you, only the fear of the Lord, which is the beginning of wisdom and it’s the beginning, by the way, it begins wisdom. It’s not all wisdom. Being love sick for him is what develops the intimacy to walk in the authority of being a bride, and that’s what you’re going after.

So set apart time, consecrate yourself and expect you’re from him. It’s going to start with a whisper, just, lord, I’m in faith, coming to you and I’m asking you to show me what’s in my scroll for today. Give me the words to pray your will for my life and the lives of those that I love. That is already written in heaven into the earth, and help me to trust in you as I lean into you. It’s going to be very small things to begin with. He’s actually ordered your steps already. So you just coming to him gives him the yes, I want to walk in what you’ve ordered for today, and he’s going to do it. I believe it, I know it.

Lord, I’m asking you right now to grow people in prayer, grow them in intercession, grow them in intimacy and unveil to them who you are and who they are. And I’m asking you right now, for those that have been wayward or walked away or gone, I see like a crooked path for some of you that have walked astray or you’ve not even known how to go to the Lord. You kind of been going about your own way. You’ve been in church for a while. Those of you that I’m talking to right now just speak alignment into your life, that you would be aligned with the cause of Christ, you would be aligned with the desires of heaven, that you would begin to understand who you are and who he is. And I declare over you right now just freedom and prayer, freedom and intercession, freedom, freedom and walking in him and divine understanding.

Some of these things I’m saying you don’t understand. The Lord will unveil it to you. I don’t have to explain it to you. Go to him. He loves it when you ask him questions. So thank you so much for joining me again here. Tammy Sutherland, burning Messengers podcast. This has been a little prophetic teaching for you, to cause you to come closer and deeper and to know him more. Go to your destiny scroll, ask him what’s in it and walk in that daily bread. Walk in the bread that he gives you for today, in Jesus name.

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Amen. Thank you for listening to this episode of Burning Messengers. You don’t want to miss what’s coming next week. So if you haven’t subscribed, please do so wherever you listen to podcasts. And if this word touched your heart, please rate and review the show on Apple podcasts. To connect with Tammy, follow her on social media or visit frontlinefire.org. You don’t have to burn alone.

August 24, 2023/by Tammie Southerland

Burning Messengers Podcast

Intercession, Kingdom Building, and the Power of the Cross with Wayland Henderson

Uncover the profound transformation within the body of Christ and grasp the blueprint of God’s divine revelation in an illuminating dialogue with the passionate Wayland Henderson.

We promise to navigate you through the merging realms of intercession and kingdom building, and the potent role of the cross in intercession. Not just a sidebar topic, the cross is the portal that brings us to the crux of intercession and the deep-rooted connection Jesus holds with His Father.

Drawing from scripture, we take you on an exploration of the Church’s mission as a beacon of the new creation and its duty to reconcile the fallen with the new. Together with Wayland, we discuss the power of words spoken with purpose and their ability to re-establish the lost connection.

We delve into our roles as intercessors standing at the junction of the fallen and the new, advocating for both and bringing them back to what is fully realized in Jesus. Wayland and I also consider the practical application of these profound concepts in arming the body of Christ.

We shed light on how leaders can ignite the hearts and minds of God’s children with the power of the cross, intercession, and the five-fold ministry. The podcast culminates with an insightful discussion on healing, our inheritance as God’s children, and Wayland’s forthcoming book. So tune in, be enlightened, and walk away with a renewed drive to live out your faith in a deeper, more authentic way.

Where to dive in:

(0:00:00) – Exploring Pioneering, Reformation, and Authentic Communion (12 Minutes)

God is doing a powerful Reformation and the body of Christ is able to function with Christ as the head. My good friend Waylon Henderson and I discuss embodying intercession and the beauty of Jesus, the cross, and the throne. We explore how the Lord is shifting and changing Christianity and how He is calling us to receive a blueprint of how He wants to make Himself known. We also talk about the personal reformation we have gone and are going through, and how we are being called to build a tabernacle amongst Israel.

(0:11:46) – Intersection of Intercession and Apostolic Building (7 Minutes)

As the world and the Church transition, we explore how to build with a different mindset than before. We discuss how intercession and building the Kingdom of God intersect, and how Jesus is the embodiment of intercession and restoring what was lost in the Garden of Eden.

(0:18:45) – Importance of the Cross in Intercession (6 Minutes)

We {explore} how Jesus invited us into the same intercession and relationship that he has with the Father, which leads us to the transcendent reality of being seeded with Him in heavenly places. We {discuss} the embodiment of what has been separated, and how the crucifixion of Christ is not a sidebar topic, but the threshold that brings us into what intercession really looks like.

(0:24:24) – Intercession and New Creation in Scripture (18 Minutes)

We explore how Jesus used the song of the exiles to embody the agony of those who have been exiled, signifying how through the power of the cross we are able to bridge the gap between God and His broken creation. We discuss how the church is meant to be a picture of new creation and how we are called to stand as an intersection between what is fallen and what is new, reconciling both back to what is fully realized in Jesus. Finally, we look at how the word, spoken with purpose, is the light of all mankind and how it is the blood language of intercession that brings those out of darkness and into the beauty of what Christ’s blood was shed for.

(0:42:43) – Intercession in Equipping the Body (12 Minutes)

We discuss how to bring revelation to the hearts and minds of the sons and daughters of God. We explore how the pause in this process is essential in order to prevent an entire generation from dying in the wilderness. We talk about how the outpouring of the Spirit is promised, where the sons and daughters can prophesy and the old and young can dream and envision together. We consider how the cross, intercession and five-fold ministry can provide understanding of the order of Melchizedek. We ponder the invitation of Jesus to join in the same intercession and relationship he has with the Father, which leads to a transcendent reality of the Bride of the Lamb. We weigh the importance of pouring out the new wine into the highways and byways, so that those compelled can come in to the marriage supper of the Lamb. As we look to the example of the book of Acts, we see how many different types of people and professions came to the end of themselves. We understand that leaders should be snapping the body parts back into the right alignment and headship with Christ. Our goal is to move away from the five-fold function within the four walls of a building, and instead become an embodiment of the Bride of the Lamb.

(0:55:11) – Inheritance and Healing (6 Minutes)

The Father invites us to enter into the inheritance of those who call Him Father. Jesus’ prayer for all who believe in the word of the Apostles brings a deep inheritance. The Lord is pursuing us and the Father of Glory is releasing a spirit of wisdom, revelation, and knowledge of Him. He is touching places of pain, trauma, and rejection to bring healing and to turn those pains into birth pains, allowing us to perceive ourselves in a new way. When we are given permission to burn and grab hold of the blood of Jesus, the healing oil of the Father of Lights begins to flow and Jesus’ light begins to shine in the darkness of our hearts.

(1:01:12) – Deep Engagement for Burning Messengers (5 Minutes)

We discuss the importance of prayer and intercession and how we can take listeners deep into community to help them apply the things we’re releasing. Wayland shares his experiences with schools, courses, gatherings and other ways to connect with him. We explore how to embody intercession and discipleship in the body of Christ and how to make Christ known. We also cover Wayland’s book on Amazon and his upcoming manuscript.

About the guest: Wayland is a husband, father and lover of Jesus and His people. A lover of the Word and the Spirit, he holds a Masters in Executive Leadership, a Masters in Divinity from Liberty University. Wayland is currently pursuing His Doctorate in Semiotics, Church and Culture at George Fox University. Wayland is a prophet, teacher, author and church planter who moves in a strong revelatory gift with an anointing to impart prophetic understanding across cultural and generational lines. He is a revival strategist and desires to see people transformed through the revelation of the Crucified Christ. He travels nationally and internationally spreading prophetic fire to awaken people to their purpose and assignment.

About the host: Tammie Southerland is the host of Burning Messengers and the author of Permission To Bur: Breaking the Chains of Compromise from a Holy Generation. She is also a speaker and prophetic minister. She releases the sound authentic of revival and messages from heaven as she travels. Her lifestyle is one of prayer and digging deep into the Word of God, her desire is to releasing the Heart of The Father in these last days. She moves in power ministry and is known for releasing the Matthew 3:11 “baptism of Holy Fire” as she goes. ⁠

Buy Tammie’s Book “Permission to Burn: Breaking the Chains of Compromise from a Holy Generation” here⁠: ⁠https://a.co/d/cznvVYK⁠

Transcript:

0:00:00 – Tammie Southerland
Once we can begin to release that, and I think that’s what we’re doing. It sounds cliche to me because I wrote the book permission to burn, but we are. We’re like we’re giving permission for the body to begin to function with Christ as the head, and that’s the pioneering aspect of this in we’re breaking ground Seems so small to say that, but we’re breaking ground and bringing revelation to the heart, in the mind of the sons and daughters, of who they are, who you are as an intercessor, not just a person who prays, and I believe that’s part of this Reformation that we’re seeing God do. It’s almost like we’re standing with one foot on one side of the river and the other foot in the wilderness. We’re straddling what God is literally trying to part right now for us to cross over. Hi guys, welcome back to the Burning Messengers.

And guess what?

I’ve got my good friend Wayland Henderson with me again this time.

I may have been like, I don’t know, maybe a year, since I’ve had Wayland on the podcast, but Wayland is one of my favorite human beings on the face of the earth and I hope that he will become one of yours because he walks in such a powerful revelation of the beauty of Jesus, the beauty of the cross, the beauty of the throne.

He carries the power and the presence of God. Some of the topics that he’s going to talk about is embodying intercession, and I really want you to hang on with us all the way through this, because it’s not just the words that Wayland speaks, it’s actually the importation that he releases that’s going to pierce your heart and take you into the depths of, really into the depths of the beauty of the throne room, the depths of the beauty of who Jesus is and the crucified life and what it is to walk with him. So I just want to welcome you, Wayland , back again. Like I’m so thankful that you’re here, I would love to just let you share for weeks, days, hours, years, forever, of all the things that God has given you and he’s entrusted you with and he’s causing you to shine right now in such an amazing way. So, Wayland , for those that don’t know you, tell us a little bit about who you are, what you’re doing right now and why do you love Jesus.

0:02:36 – Wayland Henderson
Amen, amen. Thanks, tammy, it’s always good to be with you. You’re like my sister from another mother. We used to say brothers with another mother, but now you’re my sister and I know we got DNA connected somewhere somehow, right? Amen, it’s a blessing to be back with you on the broadcast and blessings to all those who are joining us.

Simple thing about me is I just love Jesus. You know there’s a lot of things I could say, but I’m a lover of Jesus. I love my kids, my father and my husband and those things really shaped me more than anything else. My wife and I, we lead a gathered Kingdom Center here in Arlington. We’ve been in Arlington, texas, for gosh 13 years now. We moved from Pennsylvania outside Pittsburgh, where the Lord came to us in 2008, 2009, that we would move to Dallas and Dallas we wanted the platforms. Revival Our heart has always been in grip. Revival it was never like a buzzword to me. I never chased it. It chased me and grit me and grit me through places of prayer where I can give language to any of it Anything to me really was my hard burn for Jesus and I didn’t have language for where that actually meant, so fast forward.

Coming into where we are now with the Kingdom Center is really different with what we’re doing, but it’s not new, it’s more. It’s not coming into something new, it’s more coming into something ancient.

0:04:10 – Tammie Southerland
Yes.

0:04:12 – Wayland Henderson
And it flowed out of a personal reformation for me when we moved into Arlington 2010. We came out of seasons of revival when we were in Pennsylvania and it was like the Lord was moving and the gifts were everywhere. God was moving, healing, deliverance, but yet there was such a shallow and immature understanding of who Jesus was and it caused so many problems that began to cause me to reassess what does revival really look like? And so it’s out of that season of a 10-year window when I began to have a personal reformation. But the Lord really began to show me a different picture of okay, there is here, here, my dog dude in the back. Show me this personal reformation.

And a long story short was a Lord led me into okay, I want you to go into a cloud and begin to speak. I’m like, see what? Like, are you talking about an encounter? And I realized he wasn’t talking about an encounter. He was talking about Moses going into a cloud and beginning to see a blueprint of how the Lord wanted to make himself known amongst Israel. And Exodus 2540 says Moses went into the realm of God’s glory and the Lord began to show him a pattern on how he would build a tabernacle amongst Israel. So Israel would be a light to the Gentiles. And it was that backdrop that the Lord said I’m going to take you into a cloud and I’m going to begin to show you a form.

It started from a personal perspective. Then I began to lead into a corporate. I realized the Lord was shifting and it was no longer going to be just a one man, one woman show, but he was showing me body ministry and it’s out of that flow. We’re prophesying this, yet there’s Reformation coming. 2020. Reformation is coming. The Lord is about to shift. The face of Christianity is going to change as we know it. Boy, that’s human ways that you didn’t under.

I didn’t understand the magnitude of it, but that around 2017, 18, the Lord said I don’t want you to, I don’t want you to prophesy it anymore, I want you to build it. I know what that means. That’s a completely different ship, so it was out of that vein. Really, we knew what the Lord didn’t want, but we didn’t really know what he wanted.

He doesn’t want that, but I’m not sure what he’s bringing us into, and it’s out of that journey where we begin to realize what we’re doing now is it’s not just we minister out of our house. It’s not where you meet. It’s how you meet, how the reason we came into our house and begin to oversee several house churches in other communities that expand about from Orleans into about an hour out, is because the Lord was showing us more community, not surrounded around a house, a barn, a building or a tent, but around a table.

0:07:25 – Tammie Southerland
So good.

0:07:26 – Wayland Henderson
And it’s around that table that we’ve been burned to what it means to be authentic, communing with the Lord and communing with each other, and begin to realize that if we could discern the body of Christ, then we could discern his body, which is you and I. And it was out of that flow that really, we began to build in a way that we’ve never gone before, but realized we’re not doing something new. It’s something our generation, but it’s actually bringing us back to original intent.

0:07:51 – Tammie Southerland
So good. Yeah, that’s right, it’s the, in the language, that God had given me was the tabernacle in the table and just that revelation of that. And if we had time we could go into some dreams and things like that. But there wasn’t actually a dream that the Lord had given me, with you and Tom led better and some others that were in that dream, but it was transitioning out of that place, that where we were outside with the youth, where they were worshiping, into the house we were seated at a table together and I think it’s just so beautiful. One of the things that you said that I think some of us may miss and I want to emphasize is it’s not about where we meet, it’s not about the barn, it’s not about whether it’s in a house or in a church or whatever it is. That’s not the emphasis that the Lord is bringing right now. It’s how we meet. It’s him.

And I love that. It’s so beautiful. I just recently did a podcast with Rama trainer and she was talking about the transition that she’s been through as a reformer and how God’s called her attention back to the church where she had pushed the I don’t know the right language to use it but the not the local church, but the system of the church itself pushed away from that, and how she’s re bridging those gaps in us. And so the emphasis, guys, is not about where we meet, it’s about who we’re meeting with, it’s him that I’m meeting with, and so, as we talk about these things, we’re not, we’re not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

It’s not a not for or against local church and it’s like Wayland said, it’s not for against a barn.

So, it’s about him and Wayland . That’s one of the things God has put in you in different arenas probably than you thought you would be. In your, in your professor. Now at Christ for the Nations Institute, god’s putting you before students and you’re getting the opportunity to teach church planning, and the funny thing about that is you’re actually learning what he is saying during this time of reformation, but he’s putting you before students to teach his way. What is that like for you right now?

0:10:14 – Wayland Henderson
It’s what I wish someone was for me when I was at that season and I came in and I mean we can get into all how the Lord supernatural led me into that space.

But being in that class with CFNI and teaching church planning, it’s the opportunity to walk pioneers, budding pioneers or foreigners into a place of transition that we stand in has a body of press where and yet it’s not just where you meet is how you meet in the current experiences that I have is not only do we oversee and fellowship with health churches, but we also have churches and buildings and we all come together and it’s a larger, extended family and no one’s thinking about the space you go into.

Only thing everyone can start with is we’re meeting the Lord at the table and being able to take those experiences into a classroom like that with third year students. They’re about to transition into nations all over the world and begin to build and plant and be able to share those dialogues and bring them into that journey with me and begin to have them to eat from the same table that I’m beginning to eat from begins to open up a space of understanding and how to begin to see the blueprint that we carry individually, but also how we bring it together collectively. That would begin to be a source and a revelation of Christ in any area they go into. I’m having these conversations with those that are going into Brazil, they’re going into Nigeria, they’re going into Nicaragua. They’re taking house churches into Israel. That’s what the Lord is doing is interesting, because one of the things I shared with them is the commission isn’t just to plant churches, it’s to make disciples. That’s right.

That’s it, because the body of Christ is not just those who gather All courts. We gather, we fellowship and we encourage one another, but the body of Christ is the embodiment and the continuation of the incarnation of the word who was embodied in flesh. And to realize that you become the embodiment of the word of God, that becomes sacred space into the place you’re sent into, you decide to build completely different than you would have. If you’re just thinking of an administration and program that you’re going to begin to bring into an area.

It’s that kind of dialogue that we have, that not only do you have to realize the organism of the body of Christ, but also the transition in the season of which you are building and planning, so able to share those stories of coming into a time when the body of Christ is at a transition.

Not only is the body of Christ in a transition, but the whole globe is in a transition. It was like the body of Christ is in a transition at the same time, simultaneously as global continent is being shaken. So every reformer and budding pioneer that is in that classroom all begin to share a similar experience that the world is being shaken and the church is being shaken at the same time. And how you build in this season will not be able to be the same how you built in previous season. So being able to share those things and the nations that I go into and be able to sit with pastors and leaders in a real time and begin to talk about the challenges that they have is a rich type of dialogue and fellowship that I have in those classes.

0:13:57 – Tammie Southerland
It’s so powerful and even as you’re talking like scriptures just popping off in my spirit, because you’re talking about the embodiment of intercession, you’re talking about the embodiment of being the body of Christ. You’re talking about something greater, something bigger than doing the work You’re talking about the. What’s really just like popping off in my soul right now is the you’re prophesying and establishing Romans 8. You’re establishing within the next generation of how to walk out the revelation of sonship and also to embody the groan that the Holy Spirit is releasing in the soul of the son and the daughter and all of creation. It’s such a powerful reality and I did not actually piece that together until you were just saying that, but it’s taken that prophetic enlightenment for lack of a better word of Romans 8 and the awakening of intercession and pulling it into an apostolic reality which is actually building it and sending people out to establish it.

How powerful is that? Well, look at the hour that we get to live it Unbelievable, incredible. And let me ask you that that’s leading you into that this question how does intercession intersect into what we’re talking about building and, specifically, sending out apostolically? Most people don’t connect those two concepts. They think that intercession is a bunch of people that pray, they like to stay in a room and just then we do. We enjoy the glory of the Lord and the presence of the Lord, but we say that’s all. Intercession is these are the intercessors or these are the prophets, these are apostolic people, but there’s not much intersection there. What does it look like to pull the concept of intercession into the establishment of, really honestly, an in time reality?

0:16:11 – Wayland Henderson
Yeah, man, I feel anointing right now. Oh, let me let me see this way.

It’s interesting when you see everything flows out of the beauty and the revelation embodied in Jesus. Jesus is the embodiment of intercession, because when you think of intercession it takes that which was separating and brings it back together. It’s a go between and you look in the garden, that when man walked in the garden, and then through disobedience of the sun, and you look at Luke three and it goes to the genealogy, calls Adam a son of God. It goes through the disobedience of first Adam, that we were separated out of the place of God’s presence. And one of the beautiful things I see about intercession in a prayer life is this communion and communication with the Lord. It is in the garden where Adam walked with God, and walking with God denotes presence, presence denotes communion, communion denotes intimacy and that means that the garden was a place of prayer where heaven and earth converge in the garden. Come on.

In that place of intimacy, that that prayer begins to breathe and live. But it’s also a place of intersection, that heaven and earth convert. And so when it’s interesting that first Adam begin to have that and lose it in the garden, and the last Adam, as Paul declares, jesus, begins to restore it back in the garden, and the garden it gets sent me and he begins to pray until he begins to take his will and his and being God in man and begins to submit it to the will of God, which gives us the grace to lay down our will because he laid down his.

It was lost in a garden by a son was restored by the son. So that’s why the Bible begins in a garden and ends in a garden.

We’re being brought back to that place of intimacy. So it’s out of that place of prayer that you realize that everything about prayer, communion, begins to be an intersection of intercession. So Jesus begins to pray and he begins to become the embodiment of what was separated through disobedience Now has been brought back together. So then you look at Jesus walking with his disciples and the only thing that’s recorded that they asked him to teach them is how to pray. Yeah, now, I’m sure he taught them a lot of things that aren’t recorded. John says that Jesus did so much that it can’t even be kept in a in a it can’t even be contained how much he taught. But yet there’s I think there’s a reason why Luke begins to record Teach us how to pray. Because there’s something about the intimate walk that the Lord had with the father that begins to realize that everything that Jesus did flowed out of his intimacy and prayer, like with the father.

This is each of that. Then Jesus says listen, pray like this. Our father and I begin to be gripped with the revelation of the fatherhood of God that flew the flowed out of my revelation of the Son of God. He didn’t just give us a model to pray and say our father, he invited us into the intercession and relationship that he has with the father, has a son.

Yeah, when you look at that, our father who art in heaven, I begin to realize that intercession means I enter in to the same relationship that the son has with the father who is in heaven, which brings me to a transcendent reality of seeding, being seeded with him in heavenly places. So when he says, thy kingdom come, we become the embodiment of on earth as it is in heaven, not because we’re so great, but we’re entering into the union of what has been brought back together through the son, who’s become both God and man embodied in flesh. When you jump into that and you realize that that is who Jesus is he didn’t just pray, he is the embodiment of what has been separated it begins to open up a dimension of prayer and intercession that I’ve never seen before. Because now you see, how did he do that? Yes, he did that by becoming flesh. But how did he bring us into that is by the intercession of the cross.

0:21:03 – Tammie Southerland
There you go, there you go. And that’s really the point, the threshold that brings us into what really does Intercession look like and I want you to talk about that, because when you say the intercession of the cross, when you start talking about the cross, I think sometimes people are just like we get the cross, like we know Jesus died on the cross, we know that he shed his blood, like why are we still talking about the cross? Let’s go into the deep things of God but, but I want you to talk about that.

You’re talking about the embodiment, yeah, of these things and in this, the reality of the reality, the crucifixion of Christ is not some sidebar topic that we Talk about a little bit more. Wayland , we’re going from building because we’re working backwards. We want to talk about the building, we want to talk about the remove, the movement and the reformation. We like those topics. They cause our heart to burn. We enjoy talking about intercession, but you got. You find yourself back at the cross.

Yeah you always find yourself back at the cross. Why is that so important in air to to really encompass everything we’re talking about?

0:22:30 – Wayland Henderson
we for we can connect it like this when I came in to this understanding of the Lord bringing reformation, it was at that same time that I became gripped With the revelation of a crucifixion.

Lord, yeah, and One of the things that I found astounding Was heat, the writer of Hebrews I believe Hebrews 9 with comparing the priesthood, chapter 789, and even goes on the priesthood of Aaron and the function of the Levites and how there’s an ascended understanding of the priesthood of Jesus, moves after the order, melchizedek, and when you begin to see that there was a mediator, this is by his death the cross began. He began to mediate by his death. I said, wait a minute. So you mean what was separated Now is become brought together by his death. So his death on the cross actually becomes the embodiment of intercession. And then you begin to see when he’s on the cross and you have all of these theological, the theological debates of when Jesus is on the cross and At the hour we get to dark and six hour, to the ninth hour, and he says my God, why is that forsaken In the more you begin to understand that God can’t be separated from God, what’s?

really happening on the cross, that there must be something that is not. The father turns his back on his son because, never been a time in Eternity or in time when God has been separated from themselves. Lord, what are you really doing? He is actually singing Psalms 22, ho, which they? Those were prayers that were sung in the temple. In Psalms 22 he is. He is singing. You say, why is he singing? Because a good Jew would quote a song. They would sing it.

0:24:45 – Tammie Southerland
Yeah, and.

0:24:48 – Wayland Henderson
It’s also the song of the exiles that have been exiled from the temple. So Jesus takes on the embodiment of Adam that was exiled from the garden and he takes on the imbidement of Israel that was separated from the temple, where the tabernacle was, which represented the presence of God. And he sings the song of the exile Because, as an intercessor, he enters into the agony in the place of those that have been exiled. Because those have been exiled, they become the presence of God by his death. Cool.

So it’s by the power of the cross that we enter into the exile of Humanity to be a sign that, through the blood and resurrection of Jesus, what has been separated, father and his creation has now been brought together by his son. And because you and I are a body that extends the sonship of God, we allow the continuation of what is fully realized in Jesus to begin to be realized in us as we become the intersection for new. For creation is like. We are a picture of what new creation looks like. Come on, it. All of creation begins to groom for what is fully realized in Jesus, who is New creation to be fully realized in all the creation. Come on, that’s called new creation. We’re not just called new creation Because it sounds good. We’re called new creation because we’re meant to stand in the midst of fallen nature, reconciling them back to what it means to be new creation, new heavens and a newer. And when you begin to see that, you realize that everything we do in bodies intercession. Say it, I know that was a mouthful.

0:26:48 – Tammie Southerland
No, keep going. It’s beautiful, it’s deep. I know that you know those that are listening right now. If you have ever entered into the place of intercession personally and most of you have like everything inside of you is growing right now because you just began to understand what you have Step into. When you step into that place where you allow the spirit to pray through you with wordless groms, you’ve got to understand that intercession has so much more value eternal value, eternal value. Yeah, then anything else that you put your hand to come on, because what he’s saying, what he just clarified to you, was an understanding of how Jesus himself Growned, how Jesus himself entered into the weeping, groaning experience of David, of those that had gone before and tried to stand in the gap when there was no one.

0:28:01 – Wayland Henderson
Yeah, yeah.

0:28:04 – Tammie Southerland
What an, what an unbelievable gift To be able to embody that very same groan. Wow and then to stand in creation. See, this is why we have to understand, we’ve got to get this to be able to stand in creation as an answer come on. And so then that go. That takes us back to the establishment, the reestablishment, because we’re taking the torch, we’re taking the baton that’s been handed to us, yeah, to manifest the work of Christ in the earth come on, wow.

0:28:51 – Wayland Henderson
And I think sometimes, if we realize what we’ve been called to, has the church a lot of times, especially In different places of discipleship and even in the class, to see if an eye it’s like what would be your heart posture, if you realize the church Is the first fruits of what new creation is meant to look like and we stand has the insert, we stand at the intersection of fallen nature in new creation. Has new creation pulse as this those who are in christ are new creation, or a new genesis, or a new beginning. So you’re like what does that really mean? There are things that are said on purpose, with purpose. Right, you look at Genesis. You merely go back to Genesis one. And what happened? The word spoke and God said let there be light and there was. Like.

When you come to John one, john says in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. But the way that John writes in his gospel, which Many of us could easily miss, is when John is talking about the word. He’s not talking about. He’s talking about Jesus, but he’s talking about a particular way to see Jesus. He’s talking about the word on the cross, the word that is a light and the word that is the Lamb of God. And you begin to read through the very first chapter of John. He calls the one. That is the word that brings light and that light is the light of all men. That same word is the one that John the Baptist declares there goes the lamb and it’s the lamb. That is the word that when he speaks, when we get a revelation of the word of God, who is the land that was slain for us, it is like light shining into the darkness of our heart and God saying let there be life. And that makes us new creation. And new creation begins to be the embodiment of the word of reconciliation.

And when Paul’s reading in 2nd Corinthians 5 that’s, he’s talking about intercession. We are the, we are carry the ministry of atonement, the ministry of atonement, the ministry of reconciliation. And they say something that is incredible. He says, just as God was in Christ Reconciling the world to himself, we stand in Christ place saying be reconciled to God. That is not the embodiment of intercession. That, I don’t know, is a blood language, it’s a blood language. The blood still speaks. The blood still speaks. So when we begin to speak the power of the gospel. It is the blood language that moves, has intercession that would bring those out of darkness into the beauty of what Christ’s blood was shed.

You begin to pray. Different there’s. We love intercession, right, but there’s no mantle of intercession anywhere in Scripture. You ask yourselves. We know there’s intercessors, so what does that mean? The body, the entire body, is called to embody intercession. The spirit of intercession himself needs a body. Yes, say it, come on, and that body is you and I. And the spirit of intercession is the wine that’s poured into a body that is called new creation. And new creation has a certain type of skin and it’s called lamb skin. That’s it. Come on, do you see the fullness of?

that it comes together and it’s like intercession becomes the space in the body that is called the church that is self-giving, self-emptying and self-pouring out In her space of reconciliation through intercession. And you see it all through the Old Testament, the prophets embodied that yeah.

0:33:11 – Tammie Southerland
Yeah, and I love the language that we use right now we’re pioneering new things. The new thing, that’s really the old thing and we’re talking. We talk about new wine and new wine skins, but what you just said brought light to Biblically, scripturally and the power of the spirit and what the new wine skin really is and what it really looks like to. We talk about team ministry, but it’s so much more than that. It’s so much more than us getting together and passing a microphone back and forth yeah, come on. So much more than that.

0:33:52 – Wayland Henderson
What it? What would it look like, Wayland ?

0:33:55 – Tammie Southerland
What would it look like if not just those that are standing on a platform Could learn how to share a microphone? Keep going, jesus, help me. No rabbits Tammy. But, what would it look like if we could truly grasp the intercession that we’ve been in Call to and bring that to the table?

0:34:18 – Wayland Henderson
Yeah, I find it Okay, luke, when he writes his gospel. I’m going to love about Luke is Luke and acts as volume one, volume two and one of the ways that you can read Luke. I’m building to something. It is one of the ways you can read Luke is what’s called. It’s called book ends. Book ends means what’s said in the beginning, with setting. The end gives a narrative or points towards what the writer is talking about all through.

Luke begins to refer to Jesus as a prophet, comes into the temple. Spear the Lord upon me, annoying me to preach a gospel. We captives, all those things. Then he talks about Elijah and Elisha how no prophet is accepted in his own country. So he’s referring to himself as a prophet like Elijah.

Then you get to Luke 24 and the road to Emmaus and they say, oh, jesus is, he was a prophet. And the point is the one of the ways of reading it is Luke is declaring that Jesus is the prophet, like an Elijah that is beginning to teach his disciples that are like in Elisha. And to the book of Acts. It is meant to show that the body of Christ is meant to be a type of Elisha that would be a witness of the resurrection of Jesus. But also the other side of the coin of a prophet is no prophet is without intercession. So one of the things Luke says when Mark says it as well, but in particular Luke when he’s talking about Jesus wants to celebrate Passover with the disciples before he goes to the cross and he calls the man this is your. Find a man who’s carrying a picture. Let him know that the master has native view.

And somehow this master, this disciple, knew Jesus was coming and he prepared an upper room. And the upper room was where they begin to have Passover and the Lord begins to institute. The Lord supper the table in the midst of passive, in that same upper room, when he begins to bring them to the table. It’s also the same upper room where they waited when Jesus resurrected and he passed through the door. It’s the same upper room where he said, terry, and wait till you are in due with power on high. So the place of the table was also the place of prayer, and the place of prayer was where the Holy Spirit came down. And what I found astounding is it in this room. Jesus says I won’t drink of the cup until I come into my father’s kingdom. But there were four cups. They drank of three. If you don’t understand, say to her so where’s the fourth cup? Because the fourth cup is connected to a promise you shall be my people.

0:37:38 – Tammie Southerland
Yes.

0:37:39 – Wayland Henderson
So the Holy Spirit comes, has an indication that we become his people. So like where’s the? So they come out of the upper room and it says they look like they was drunk with new wine. So there is this combination of embodying intercession and intimacy with the, with Jesus, that blows out of a place of intimacy and prayer where we begin to commune with the body and blood of the Lord so that we would become blessed bread and poured out wine to those who have never tasted of their Creator. Come and all that is connected to a table that becomes an altar where we become altered to begin to brain Christ to those who’ve never seen it Hallelujah. That’s body ministry. That is beyond team ministry.

0:38:35 – Tammie Southerland
Come on.

0:38:36 – Wayland Henderson
No, the team ministry is a good start, but it’s meant to be assigned with the entire body is meant to do Exactly. You know we do a lot of team ministry, but it’s meant to be a sign.

0:38:51 – Tammie Southerland
Yes.

0:38:51 – Wayland Henderson
If it, I would even say this if team ministry can be a first fruits of what it looks like for a body to move in cluster, then there’s a lot of wine that can be poured out.

0:39:04 – Tammie Southerland
Come on, I will. I want you to speak to this too, because some that are watching, some that are listening. They are not necessarily a part a lot of a lot are part of ministry but aren’t necessarily a part of a functional position where they can even flow in ministry. You’re talking about the first fruit Seeing this begin to take place before the body, seeing people who are in positional ministry learn how to be poured out together, how powerful that is. What do you say to those that are really like I don’t really know how this works for me. I feel it, I’m burning for it, I long for it, but for so long we’ve seen ministry within the box of a platform. How do we go further than that? How does this reach into the guy that owns a business, or the mom that’s at home with her kids, or the guy that’s retired and his wife, or just travel in the world? Where does all this intersect? Or when does it intersect, I think when does it intersect for the rest of the body?

0:40:21 – Wayland Henderson
Come on, I’m so glad you asked it in a way that you did. I think we’ve flipped Ephesians four in a way that was not intended, because when you read Ephesians four in context, that it’s not chapter, it’s a letter and the unisex of the letter is the body. The emphasis of the letter has never been the five-fold function. The five-fold function falls in emphasis of the body beginning to mature.

0:40:51 – Tammie Southerland
Yes.

0:40:52 – Wayland Henderson
It means every body part is called to grow up into the headship.

0:40:57 – Tammie Southerland
Maturity yes.

0:40:58 – Wayland Henderson
The maturity of the Son of.

God. So all of us are meant to be the workmanship of God that shines in every sphere of influence. Well, a lot of times when people come into our community and people kind of laugh in our fellowship because when they first come in it’s like you’re a leader. I’m like I don’t have a five-fold function. I said, I didn’t say anything. I said you’re a leader. Whether you’re leading across a table with your family Right Reading across the street with your neighbor, whether you’re leading across the highways at your job, wherever your foot has influence, you are meant to lead someone out of darkness into the light of Christ. Right, and anything about five-fold function is meant to equip the body.

0:41:46 – Tammie Southerland
Right.

0:41:48 – Wayland Henderson
So if that means that the foundation of leaders is meant to be on the bottom, pushing the body up to do the work of the ministry, so when you see it from that aspect, you should be burning to make Christ known in your household. You should be burning to make Christ known. I have lawyers. I have a lawyer that’s been part of our fellowship who actually want to yell. Has a missionary Wow. And now he sits in his practice and begins to minister to lawyers that would never come to church Come on, but they will come to his practice every day. It’s like there’s a freedom, there is a permission that leaders need to give the body to burn bright with the passion of the Lord to make him known. Yeah, the book of Acts was about it was not about five-fold leaders that were in the upper ring, it was 120 who came to the end of themselves and there were many different type people and professions that were there.

0:42:59 – Tammie Southerland
Yeah, it was 120 that came to the end of themselves.

0:43:03 – Wayland Henderson
Yeah.

0:43:04 – Tammie Southerland
That’s what it is. Yeah, and even as you’re talking, like I’m seeing, we have used the language if you pour in it’s scriptural Jesus said it you pour the new wine into an old wine skin, it burst and the wine is wasted. But I’m seeing this image of the wine being poured out into the highways and byways that’s compelling them to come in. And what I’m seeing and thinking, the spirit, is that so many have been afraid that if we think it’s for the work of the ministry, therefore we in our minds think it’s for. It is for the work of the building which we call ministry.

0:43:41 – Wayland Henderson
Come on.

0:43:42 – Tammie Southerland
And what the Lord has done is he’s called us into unity and Christ in the maturity of the saints, right With the five-fold, into that place of maturing in the intercession. You talk about Melchizedek, but the where he mentions Melchizedek and says that we can’t even understand that he’s telling them. You can’t even understand the concept right now because you’re still consuming milk and not the solid, the meat, the ability to gain the understanding. What, if part of that at least, is understanding intercession and the way that you’re talking about, the embodiment of intercession, so that we can walk after the order of Melchizedek, being able to be priests and kings, not just a five-fold function within the four walls of a building, but that that new wine is not being spilled but it’s being released into the highways and byways, which is what compelling them to come in to, not the church thankful for the church but the marriage supper of the lamp.

0:44:52 – Wayland Henderson
Come on. Yeah, I completely agree. Thanks, the sum. Even the language of Paul uses. The Christ led captivity, captive and gave gifts to men which the apostle, the prophet, to give, some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, shepherds and teachers. All of those are the nature of Christ. Has he moved in the earth as the apostle, the prophet, the evangelist, the shepherds, the teacher? A quippy in one of the words for equipping that love is a Greek word that says when a bone was out of place or broken, that they snap it back into place. So leaders are meant to snap the body part, body parts, back into the right alignment and headship with Christ himself, so that they can be apostolic, so they can be prophetic, so they can be evangelistic, shepherding and having a teaching understanding of making Christ known everywhere the body goes. It’s not meant to suppress the body, it’s meant to cause the body to go up and release the body. That’s right we understand it.

From that perspective, those things are great and they have their place. But the emphasis isn’t on the five fold in that language, it’s actually on the body who’s become a son.

0:46:24 – Tammie Southerland
That’s good, that’s right.

0:46:25 – Wayland Henderson
Yeah, and the thing is, the sun is huge because it was the sun. Adam was the son of God in the garden, Israel is called, has a son of God when you know, moses says this. Yahweh says in Exodus 423, let my firstborn son, israel, go. Tell this to Pharaoh, let my firstborn son, israel, go, or I’ll kill your firstborn, which he refers to an entire nation, who was called a kingdom of priests, had the sun, yeah. So when you begin to see that in Jesus obviously being the son of God, and if the five fold is meant to mature us up into the sonship, then the sons who are led by God is the body herself, who is a bride and a son, that is meant to be the embodiment of intercession, and the hands of feet that flow from his head in every space that you go to. Amen, and we understand that oil should flow everywhere, not just from a platform, but in every space where you can make a note.

0:47:31 – Tammie Southerland
That’s right, and once we can begin to release it, and I think that’s what we’re doing. It sounds cliche to me because I wrote the book Permission to Burn, but we are. We’re like, we’re giving permission for the body to begin to function with Christ as the head, and that’s the pioneering aspect of this, in where breaking ground seems so small to say that. But we’re breaking ground and bringing revelation to the heart and the mind of the sons and daughters, of who they are, who you are as an intercessor, not just a person who prays, and I believe that’s part of this reformation that we’re seeing God do. And it’s almost like we’re standing with one foot on one side of the river and the other foot in the wilderness. It’s like we’re straddling what God is literally trying to part right now for us to cross over. But I believe the pause in it, Wayland , and all the things that we’re talking about right now, the pause is to the slowing down to, because we don’t want an entire generation to die in the wilderness. This time we want to see what he’s promised is the outpouring of his spirit, where the sons and the daughters prophesy, and the old men and the young men begin to dream and envision together.

I believe that’s why we’re feeling like you and I are like, oh, we’ve wanted this for so long, but at the same time, like he’s still increasing our understanding, he’s still increasing our revelation of who he is, even in the simplicity of the cross, even in the simplicity of intercession and fiefal ministry. But at the same time, he’s taking and he’s pulling the body of Christ across, you know, a divide where we thought we couldn’t cross over into. And this is what this is where we are, this is what we get to do, this is what we get to be a part of, but it’s I don’t know. I feel like I don’t even have language for it. Honestly, I don’t have a language for the beauty of it. I don’t have a language for the opportunity that we’re standing in, and I’m not talking about ministry.

0:49:52 – Wayland Henderson
Yeah.

0:49:53 – Tammie Southerland
I love ministry, but I’m not talking about ministry as we know it. I’m talking about being a minister and bringing our kids into the abiding and, in your words, the embodiment of being a minister, and thereby what Bringing in the sheets, by seeing the promises of God at the end of the age begin to manifest, thereby being the answer to all creation that’s groaning For the new creation.

0:50:33 – Wayland Henderson
Incredible.

0:50:34 – Tammie Southerland
What if our kids get to carry that?

0:50:36 – Wayland Henderson
One of the things that really shifted my hunger and my pursuit of the Lord in context of revival and reformation was, or simply said this to me what if what you are praying for wasn’t for your generation, but it was for your children’s generation? Would you still be gripped with the same passion to see me move if it was for the generation that came after you? And it actually increased my heart. One thing that Moses says to the generation in the Promised Land it’s about to enter in and he’s going over Deuteronomy is like telling the story over again of how the other generation missed it and don’t make the same mistakes. And one thing he says in Deuteronomy 4 was he says they heard the voice of God, but they did not see his form. And because they did not see his form, they made similitudes of how they thought he looks. Wow.

She never seen him. Oh, and it’s those who go, it’s the spies that go into the Promised Land and they’re able to bring back clusters of fruit. This is the land is full of giants, but yet it’s also flowing with milk and honey. And the proof that, he says, wasn’t all the, it wasn’t healing, it wasn’t deliverance, it was the fruit Of what a pioneering people that were walking together carry.

And if in the language of the spies is also the language of forerunner in the Hebrew or in the book of Hebrews, what if forerunners could taste and see? Not only taste and see, but be changed by the one that you do see, so that the generation that’s in a transition in the wilderness can taste and see the future through what we embody, so they don’t just have to hear about something that’s coming, they can see it embodied in our generation, so they can carry it and have a different narrative in their generation than we have in ours. And when you look at the word ministry, that’s service. And if we begin to recapture the original tent of ministry as service, then it’s what we lay down for the generation that comes after us is serving them the body and the blood of the Lord, so they can taste and see him in us and through us, so they can carry that, with a different narrative, into their generation. Where they’re not hunger and praying for revival, they become the embodiment of and that’s been his dream.

0:53:55 – Tammie Southerland
Yeah all along, and I’ve often said we’ve not tasted revival. We’ve not seen revival on the earth because we’ve not yet seen what they experienced in Acts, chapter two, because they embodied it.

0:54:10 – Wayland Henderson
Yeah.

0:54:12 – Tammie Southerland
They embodied it.

0:54:14 – Wayland Henderson
Come on.

0:54:16 – Tammie Southerland
I want you to just pray and release in part what the Lord has on your heart. For those that are watching, those that are listening, guys, I just want you to put yourself in a posture of reception right now. The Lord really has something more than head knowledge to release to you right now. I believe that it’s what he said, it’s snapping into place, that he’s going to release to you, even as, as Wayland prays, if you’re riding down the road, if you are sitting in your house and you’ve got chaos, right now, I just want you to put the pause on wherever you are, whatever you’re doing, and I want you just to receive, because I see it in the spirit, I see that alignment happening and that snapping back into place. Wayland , I just want you to pray or even speak as the Lord leads you.

0:55:10 – Wayland Henderson
Amen. There’s an invitation from the father that’s being released to the language of the sun to begin to come into the fatherhood and the inheritance of all those that call God father. So when Jesus said our father who are in heaven, he was speaking to his disciples, but the beauty of that is when he goes into prayer. In John 17, he says not only do I pray for them, but I pray for everyone that would believe on their word. When the book of Acts begins to come forth and 3000 begin to come in to the beauty of what it means to be in Christ, they follow the Apostles doctrine and they begin to break bread together. There is an inheritance that you and I had been invited into, not just by the union with Jesus, who calls God father, but by all those who came before us that call God father. I believe there is an invitation that the Lord is lifting us up and bringing you into a reality of what it means to call him the father of glory, to call him the father of lights, and in him there was no shadow of turning. He is in hot pursuit of you, more than you realize. And a couple of weeks ago. If this is what I’m going to pray oh, don’t mind me is.

I was ministering and I seen the Lord, by his hand, take a house and lift the house up and he began to whisper into the house and then begin to sit the house back down and then he puts his finger Inside the house and I realized that he was putting his finger on places of pain, on places of rejection, on places of trauma, that he would begin to heal those pains. He would begin to heal those wounds that would bring you into the healing of his wounds, that would cause your wounds to be healed and become wounds. That would begin to first something new in your life. And his finger would begin to touch those places of pain and trauma and rejection and bring healing and turn those pains into birth pains, because he’s going to cause you to perceive who you are in ways you never seen yourself before, because the Father of Glory is releasing the spirit of wisdom and revelation and the inheritance of the saints, in union with the sun, is going to be like healing oil that goes down into those places of abandon and you’re going to realize that the Lord is with you and he’s never elected you. And I think, tammy, what I found, especially since you wrote that book, that there is oil and there is a key when you give people the permission to burn and when you give them the permission to grab hold of what the blood of Jesus has brought them into.

So I believe the finger of God is putting his finger on places that you can’t run around anymore, that you can’t prophesy your way out of, you can’t fast your way out of, but he’s putting his finger on those places that he desires to deliver you from and heal you through, so that you become a healing agent and a witness of what God wants to do through you and your family and your places of influence, so that you become a testimony of the beautiful delivering and compassion of the Father and Lord.

I pray, father of Glory, that you would give unto them the spirit of wisdom and revelation and knowledge of you, that the eyes of their hearts would be flooded with light in the same way that the light light of Jesus begins to shine in the darkness of our hearts.

That would be like let there be light, and this light is going to bring a deep revelation of the inheritance of the saints and the exceeding greatness of his power that is in you and that I pray that the power of the resurrection, the same power that raised Jesus from the dead and caused him to be seated at the right hand of the Father, far above all principalities and powers and might and dominion, and every name that is named, that would flow through you right now and break chains of despair and begin to open up your eyes to see in ways you’ve never seen before, open up your ears to hearing ways you’ve never heard before, and release your heart into the freedom of what it means to be a son of God, and that I break the spirit of fear that is connected to slavery, just like Israel, begin to realize that we are no longer meant to be slaves or we’re an inheritance of the God of our fathers.

It just as they had an accident, you’re about to have an accident out of limitations and then to the beauty of the son of God, and I just released that right now in Jesus name. Amen.

1:01:07 – Tammie Southerland
And so good, so powerful, all that you just released. And, guys, I just want to encourage you to even go back and replay this. I really want you to dig deep into this. I know we do some podcasts that are fly by. That was fun, but this is meaty. This is very important for you to be able to walk in, not just what you’re called to, but who you are. Part of our heart is to just awaken you to your heart. You know who you are as a burning messenger, to call you to intimacy, prayer, intercession. But this is one of those sessions, it’s one of those podcasts that you really just need to dig deep into. Thank you so much, Wayland , for joining me Thank you so much for being here again.

Guys, I love you, I’m thankful for you. Share this out. Let people know that we are doing many different things. As a matter of fact, I do want, Wayland , to share their. We’re doing courses, we’re doing gatherings, we’re launching schools. Like we don’t want to just minister to your heart through a podcast. We want to take you deep into community when we want to help you apply the things that we’re we’re releasing and we want to help you to establish that where you are. Wayland , do tell a little bit about the schools. I know that you and Tom are doing some schools. We’re doing some schools. We’re doing some things together. But just share with them where they can find you if they have never followed you, or where they can grow more. And you’ve got a book, another book coming out. You’ve had a book that you’ve released before. Share all that stuff, sure.

1:02:50 – Wayland Henderson
Easy way to find me is several ways on. You can follow me on Facebook, on my personal page where you can follow the Gathering Kingdom Center. You can go on the gather kingdom center dot com, the website. It’s also the greater works generation. We do some things on there as well. You can follow me on Instagram.

Some of the schools that were that time and hour doing together and our friend Tom. They range from five full leaders, but one of the things is really beginning to to increase now is not just teaching five full leaders. All those things are important, but intercession, schools of intercession, the body of Christ, how to embody intercession in discipleship, teaching everyday believers how to know Christ and to make him known. And I’ve written a book on discipleship. You can find that on Amazon. I have a A wall to manuscript right now. That’s in the works that you know. We’ll let you know when that timeframe comes.

But it’s really about what it means to be the testimony of Jesus and how. The spirit of prophecy is not just learning how to prophesy, but a spirit of prophecy is learning how to give witness, to make Christ known, because that’s who we are as the body of Christ. When they see you, they should be able to see Christ through us. So there’s a couple of things that we’re doing. We’d love to be able to pour into you in any space, in any way that we can.

1:04:31 – Tammie Southerland
Yep, and I’ll put the links to all that in the description You’ll be able to find where to follow him, find books. He’s got a sub stack. I don’t know if you’ve heard of sub stack, but sub stack is where he writes a lot of his articles and things and releases really powerful content there. So we’ll put all that in the description. Thank you, guys again for showing up, for joining us with these podcasts. Be sure to share them out, be sure to let people know what we’re doing with the burning messengers. We’re launching a lot of the stuff that we’re doing, the burning messengers. We’re launching schools as well, that we want to equip you and train you. We want to launch you. We want to send you out and always remember you don’t have to burn alone. This is not you and the island to yourself. You’re not alone. There’s other burning ones out there. So be sure to connect in and begin to release out what he is pouring into you. Love you guys. Talk to you soon.

1:05:30
Thank you for listening to this episode of burning messengers. You don’t want to miss what’s coming next week. So if you haven’t subscribed, please do so wherever you listen to podcasts. And if this word touched your heart, please rate and review the show on Apple podcasts. To connect with Tammy, follow her on social media or visit frontlinefire.org. You don’t have to burn alone.

August 17, 2023/by Tammie Southerland

Burning Messengers Podcast, Tammie Southerland Prophetic Writings

Prophetic Word | The Emerging Spiritual Revolution of Gen Z

What if a sweeping revival was on the horizon, ready to embrace and uplift the current generation? Imagine a tsunami of spiritual awakening, uniting all generations in humility and mature discipleship, originating from the most unexpected source – Generation Z.

This episode reveals the prophecy of this youth revival and the profound impact it will have on the world. In the wake of suffering, we believe waves of glory will break forth, and we share our insights on how the fear of the Lord will trigger this awakening. As we navigate this thought-provoking episode, we delve into the importance of genuinely connecting with the scriptures and how it can seal our hearts from anything that doesn’t come from the Lord. We discuss how, in the face of adversity, relying on God’s wisdom can lead us to a place of protection and purification. It’s not just about reading the scriptures – it’s about letting God’s words root deep within us, providing guidance and strength in times of hardship. Join us as we explore these themes, and make sure to tune in next week for more enlightening discussions. If our words resonate with you, please take a moment to rate and review the show. Where to dive in: (0:00:00) – Youth Revival and Waves of Glory (12 Minutes) We discuss the coming of a youth revival, a shaking and the waves of glory that will come from it. We explore how suffering brings glory, how the fear of the Lord will come and how the Lord is releasing a tsunami of awakening among Generation Z. We speak to how this is not just about Gen Z, but also Generation X and other generations, and how they will come together to lock arms in humility and maturity of discipleship. We look at how the Lord is the head of this move and how the gates of hell will not prevail against it. (0:12:05) – Sealing and Connecting With the Scriptures (1 Minutes) Subscribe now to not miss out on next week’s episode, and if this word touched your heart, please rate and review the show. God will seal our hearts from anything that is not from Him, and allow His words to take root deep within us. Allowing suffering can bring glory, and trusting God to do the work will bring us into a place of protection and purification.

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0:00:00 – Tammie Southerland
The waves of glory will come. Glory, as it says in Romans 8, comes from the place of Suffering. Out of suffering we begin to see glory formed. So the fire will come to burn up the things that he does not desire. Persecution will come, negativity will come, backlash Against his move will come, but out of that will come waves of glory. So, even in the height of, of misunderstanding and shaking in the religious realm as well as the world, he will continue to pour out his glory, and I’m talking about weighty glory. Will come, the fear of the Lord will come.

Revival or bust right, that’s always been my cry. It’s been Lord, give me revival or give me death. I’ve shed so many tears over the subject and we’re seeing as Barry, we’re seeing college campuses, we’re seeing God pour out his spirit upon or among young people, but it doesn’t look like what we thought and who could make this stuff up? Jesus Revolution comes out on the very tail of this as very revival, and this movie has been in the making for seven years. Some would say that they planned it this way, though those Christians they. They planned it, they tried to make it that way, this way. But I want to tell you something. When God moves, no man can stop it. And I’ll tell you one thing God, he does it and we can’t make it up Now.

It was I don’t know many years ago that I was a youth pastor and God began to speak to me about a coming youth revival. And so, when I was a youth pastor, I was traveling and I was ministering, doing what? 24 hour worship and prayer gatherings all Over the nation. We were bringing together people of different churches, different denominations, coming together to center around one thing, and that’s the lamb worship him around the clock, without any kind of agenda or any kind of formula. But as a youth pastor, I would come back and I would see that my youth were not on Fire. They just wanted to play games, they wanted to have pizza parties and I wanted them to fast and pray.

So one Saturday, I was crying out to the Lord God, when will you release a youth revival? And all of a sudden, I saw a vision of my daughter, who at the time, was only 10 or so years old, and I have three daughters and they are three years apart, so this is my oldest daughter. I see a vision of her with her hands raised and tears Streaming down her face and I heard the Lord say when your daughters are teenagers, I will release a revival Among my children like the world is yet seen. Be patient and wait for me, for it’s coming and the sons and the daughters will run Together. Well, I want you to know that you may not care about how old my children are, but I fully care because I’ve been standing on that word all of these years. My oldest daughter that I saw in the vision will be 18 years old and going to college in this this summer. My middle daughter, it, will be 15 years old and my youngest daughter will be 12 years old. She’s 11 right now. So I believe that this is a benchmark moment where the Lord is fulfilling what he has promised.

If you’ve seen any of the other Revival or prophetic alerts on this page, you will know that I have already spoken of this revival, that God is moving through Gen Z. But this is what the Lord is saying. This is only the beginning. It will come and it will continue to come.

Asbury was just the beginning. That was an awakening of the release of the Holy Spirit into denominations who believe that he has ceased and pouring out his spirit. He is moving in the power and in mercy over denominations right now, that he wants to know that he is still blowing his wind even in this hour. He’s doing a reminder revival right now, and but what it’s going to do is it’s actually going to turn into a great shaking and waves of glory will come. So there will be shaking and there will be glory and there will be fire. What does that mean? The shaking actually begins to unlock things that need to be unlocked and break down things that need to be broken. We saw in the Asbury revival the sinking ship. We saw that the hand was off of any stardom, any famous voice. Nobody was given the platform that had any kind of clout, only the Lord and these humble students. The Lord is releasing a shaking. The waves of glory will come. Glory, as it says in Romans 8, comes from the place of suffering. Out of suffering we begin to see glory formed. So the fire will come to burn up the things that he does not desire. Persecution will come, negativity will come, backlash against his move will come, but out of that will come waves of glory. So even in the height of misunderstanding and shaking in the religious realm as well as the world, he will continue to pour out his glory and I’m talking about weighty glory will come. The fear of the Lord will come, and this is what the Lord is saying Between 2025 and 2026. There it will be a tsunami of awakening among Gen Z and it will be cross generational.

The Lord wants you to know that this is not just about generation Z. This is about also generation X. I hear the Lord saying generation X, generation X, generation X. I have broken theX off of you. I am releasing you from the place of feeling like the David in the field who has been overlooked. The Lord is saying I’m bringing you in as mothers and fathers to lock arms with Generation Z, as well as the millennial generation, to bring them into the maturity of the movement and maturity of discipleship, to be able to bring them in as those who are willing to eat meat and not only the milk of the word, and the other generations that are above Gen X. The Lord is saying I have not forgotten you, for this is a move where you will lock arms together. This is a move where teams will come together in humility.

The Lord is saying I am the head and those who are unwilling to allow me to bring them into connection with one another as a body who the gates of hell can’t prevail against. Those who are not willing, will not see the fullness of the promises for them personally, but the fullness of the promises of the kingdom will still come to pass. I heard the Lord say that Gen X circuit riders will burn with new fever. Gen X mothers and fathers will run with Gen Z sons and daughters and teach them how to be circuit riders and circuit breakers in humility and, in the same season, protecting their purity. I heard the Lord saying these circuit riders will not come forth as those in the past because they’re willing to submit to the leadership and wisdom and authority of an older generation who will prepare them to not lose their families and their relationships in the process of serving the Lord. For you will serve the Lord and not serve the idol of ministry in this season. Now, I’m not saying this is me talking. I’m not saying that some will not stumble and fall, because they will, but there will be a remnant who will run in purity, honor and holiness will be of deep value of these Gen Z voices. So I want to pray for you right now, if you are in the generation that I am speaking of, gen Z and Gen Alpha, which are the younger ones.

The Lord sees generations as the people upon the earth. He has chosen to pour out his spirit upon those who are willing to go low and to worship him in purity. The Lord sees and knows that you want something real, that you want something that is of him, that that no man can touch. I heard the Lord say he is doing a movement where he is putting together unhewn stones look that up in scripture unhewn stones or or altars that were made by rocks that weren’t cut by man. This was an Old Testament principle, and so, therefore, the Lord is Inviting you in this season, jen X and Jen Alpha, to allow him to pour himself into you, but do not let your heart be hardened.

Turn your hearts particularly to the generation X mothers and fathers who have walked through the seasons of hiddenness and who are willing to stay in hiddenness or go low and not buy into the idolatry of the ministry machine.

This is very important, even though you may not understand this language. Generation X leaders, you who have been hidden like David’s in the field or like Joshua’s in the presence, god is saying, or even like Daniel’s or Shadrach, meshach and Abednego. There’s so many examples, those of you who’ve remained hidden and remained alone, those of you who have even repented of being a part of things that you knew didn’t set right in your spirit. The Lord is saying that he is going to take all of the suffering of that season and he’s going to turn it into wisdom. Ask him for the seven-fold spirit of God to rest on you that you are able to disciple and mentor a generation into lowliness and also full submission to the spirit. And the Lord is asking you will you refuse to put your hands on my move, but only allow me to move through you in humility, in purity, and disciple a generation in the things of God? And for those of you that are in the older generation, I feel like the Lord, even now, is spotlighting you to honor you, the Jesus people movement. He’s honoring you in that movement.

But you have a wisdom to impart of the pitfalls of Lonnie Frisbee, the pitfalls that happened during that movement, to bring about even greater wisdom into the Gen Xers, who are going to begin to be mothers and fathers, to the Gen Zers, even millennials and the generation Alpha. There is hope. Hope is arising, but this is a movement where he’s taking you from being just a Christian into a witness of Christ. So, father, I thank you so much, for those that are watching, that you would seal this word of anything that was not of me, that you would pluck it out and not allow it to take root Everything that is of you, that you would allow it to go deep and allow it to connect with your scriptures, connect with your logos word. Let the Ramah connect with the logos and go root deep into the heart, cover, protect and purify us, even as we say yes to you in this hour in Jesus name.

0:12:33
Thank you for listening to this episode of Burning Messengers. You don’t want to miss what’s coming next week, so if you haven’t subscribed, please do so wherever you listen to podcasts. And if this word touched your heart, please rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. To connect with Tammy, follow her on social media or visit frontlinefireorg. You don’t have to burn alone.

August 9, 2023/by Tammie Southerland

Burning Messengers Podcast, Tammie Southerland Prophetic Writings

Prophetic Word | Dismantle Glamor in Ministry

What is authentic worship and how can we shift our perspective from striving for man-made fame to humbly serving in unity? This episode offers an empowering prophetic word about breaking free from the ministry’s hype and elevated stages.

We delve into the significance of humbling oneself in service of God, and how the Lord is clearing the noise, urging us to return to His presence with sincerity and faith. Dive in as we critically examine how some leaders may have perpetuated a service-based climb up a man-made pyramid of fame, fostering an orphan heart. We emphasize the need for unity, humility in service, and a focus on our divine calling to unleash heaven onto the earth.

Get ready to alter your perceptions, learn to serve in the spirit of humility, and discover how to genuinely honor each other in a way that mirrors the spirit of the Lord.

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As a matter of fact, the Lord wants you to know that there is no up unless there is a down. God is calling you to humble yourself. It says in the word that the humble what will be exalted, and the least among you will be the greatest.

Hi, thank you so much for joining me and I just want to share this word with you, and I want to give you a little bit of an understanding of what God is doing right now. So if I want you to pray right now, god, prepare my heart for what is about to be spoken. Give me discernment that I can know whether it’s you or it’s not you. Father, help me to know your word and help this to identify with your scriptures that are in my heart. And I want to say this anytime I release a word, I do want you to check the word of God, the scriptures, in spirit and in truth, to balance any word that is released. This word about the showboats sinking and the ministry machine breaking is a word for us to understand right now what he is doing, so that we can align our hearts with him. And so the Lord said that this move is sinking the showboats, clearing the hype and the elevated stages and shutting off the spotlights, and we must lean into what he’s doing. So let me explain to you, as I begin to release this word, what the hype is. So the hype that the Lord is talking about is noise. It is any type of worship, preaching ministry from a platform that is absent the presence of God. He’s causing us to return back to his presence, back to his face. If he doesn’t go with us, we don’t want to go. So he’s actually in his mercy. Removing the hype, the elevated stages that the Lord is speaking of, is a man made fame. These are places of performance. The Lord is bringing low all of the performance and bringing high levels of his presence and levels of purity and levels of his fire and glory. So he is just bringing flat, elevated stages, spotlights, spotlights, illuminate performers. Again, the season of ministry performance is over. That is a no more.

The Lord is saying you must come out of her talking about the spirit of Babylon in the book of Revelation. Come out of her so that you can be purified with the fire and you can return to your first love. But let us weep, let us mourn over what we have created ministry to be and allow God to not just eliminate the spotlights but to eliminate within our hearts the desire to perform for him, not just in church but in our everyday life. Let me clarify this the showboat in the spotlight and the of the ministry is what we have created to be about us. I saw a picture of the Titanic breaking in half, the water filling it and it going under. Why? Because the Titanic was the unsinkable ship right. It’s almost a picture of the Tower of Babel where God says no, if I’ve got to come down and listen, we want awakening, we won’t revival. The Lord says I’m answering you, I’m coming down and I’m going to confuse that thing and to break it so that a true move can come forth. This is a word for emerging voices. This means you will have to Prepare your heart and remove from your ingrained thinking that to arrive means to drive, because in this movement you are not going to arrive anywhere Driving alone.

There’s a matter of fact in Ephesians, where it talks about the fivefold ministry. It ends with the revelation that Jesus is the head, that the fivefold ministry is not a pyramid, but the fivefold ministry is a connection of a body with Jesus at the head. To arrive Is not to drive. The Lord is speaking about team ministry in this hour. Also, those leaders who led a generation to serve their way up Are beginning to come and understand that they have Perpetuated the orphan heart. As a matter of fact, the Lord wants you to know that there is no up Unless there is a down. God is calling you to humble yourself. It says in the word that the humble what will be exalted, and the least among you will be the greatest. The spotlight and showboat. Ministry has fed off of this machine that looks like a pyramid, that has a man at the head and has everyone younger Serving their way up, a pyramid where that faults or that old wine skin.

Apostolic movement actually did not mean to, but it communicated without saying if you serve me, if you, if you do the things that I say to do, then you can become me or you can look like me Eventually, and that was never the heart of the Lord. You serve your way down, down. You go low in order to ascend the hill of the Lord, to have clean hands and a pure heart, because your calling is to the throne of God. Your calling is to release heaven into the earth, and that means you come with a broken and contrite spirit Saying I am poor and needy of all the things of the kingdom. God, I’ve got to have you. And so, father, I’m just asking you, lord, even for those leaders who bought into the lie of the latter Right now, that they would begin to understand the reason we have such a problem with the orphan heart even still, is because there’s no Except for down. Father, we’re asking you right now for your mercy as you begin to break down the showboat, as you begin to break down the ministry Machine and you begin to re-institute your alignment, your Strategies, your heavenly blueprint in the earth as it is in heaven.

God, I’m asking you right now that you would begin to show us the truth about the team, how to function as a team, and I want to tell you that the new wine that God is pouring out into the new wine Skin, is actually, as my friend Waylon Henderson says, the lamb skin. The new wine skin is the skin of the lamb, the, the lamb who was slain from the foundation of the earth, the lamb who was seated at the throne, the lamb who, it says, is at the center of it all. The lamb is the only one worthy, and the new wine is Is the grapes that are being crushed or pressed together. Until we come into unity, to know what it is to be unified and matured into him as he pours out his spirit, we’re pressed into each other, learning what it is that John 17 passage that they will know that we are his by our love for one another.

That five fold ministry must be connected to the seven fold spirit of God. We’ll learn about that in another video, but I want you to look that up. The five fold ministry must be connected to the seven fold spirit of God in order to have the lamp stand Strong at the end of the age. And so what? This? I’m going to lead you right now Into a response to this prophetic word. This is what we’re gonna do.

I want you to repent right now and release any unmet expectations and forgive those who thought that the best way to teach you how to go low or how to serve or how to submit was to serve man. Until you could become like the man. I want you to begin to forgive and release and repent for believing that. Begin to ask God right now to uproot those lies from your heart, because he’s setting the stage for you if you are a leader that led that way or mentored that way or spiritual fathered Someone in that way. Just right now, begin to repent and release that to the Lord and begin to pray for all of those who thought that they could become you, whenever you led them to serve their way up. Just begin to release and go into the spirit and break that off of them and then you’re gonna bless an honor by the spirit of the Lord. Both the sons and the daughters and those who mentor, or leaders who mentored in the wrong way, are gonna begin to Bless by the spirit of the Lord, not by the spirit of man.

So what I’m talking about? Honor, not in a way of religious behavioral Modification. I’m talking about honor in a way that it says in James where you honor even the lowliest Among you, or the least shall be greatest. Where honor comes from the heart, by the spirit of the Lord, not by the religious behavioral Education that man has talked you. Where you purse your lips shut and won’t say something because it’s dishonorable, but yet you have bitterness in your heart or we’re gonna break that right now in Jesus name, and then I want you to prepare for team ministry and Function in the church and in business, in team, begin to change the way you see the scriptures and how the gifts of the spirit are distributed upon everyone with different Graces, and it’s not just for the church house, it’s also for the schoolhouse, it’s also for the marketplace, because the greatest apostolic leaders that we see in scripture they had businesses, they were tent makers Paul as a tent maker by trade and they released their apostolic Anointing, their prophetic anointing, their teaching anointing, their pastorial anointing. These anointings they released in every Facet of the culture. That’s how they turned the world upside down, and so prepare your heart for that.

You may be a pioneer, but you are going to come in connection with other pioneers in this hour. That’s gonna cause you to have to humble yourself in the Lord and learn from one another. You’re gonna begin to pioneer with others. That’s the paces of the puzzle come together. That is why it’s important to understand that the anointing, or the new wine, is in the cluster of grapes being pressed Together, being pressed together, pressed but not crushed right, persecuted but not abandoned. Struck down but not destroyed. But we’re entering into this hour where we’re going to see pressing, we are gonna see Persecution, we are gonna see a striking down of things from the the standpoint of the spirit of Babylon and the spirits Of the world. The spirit of the age is gonna try to cut things down that the Lord is doing. You have to understand that you cannot be an island under yourself.

Finally, social media following. Your social media following will not determine your spiritual success. I’m gonna say that again your social media following does not determine your spiritual success. God, may we crush this Eitel the Lord is asking us to crush, to destroy, to obliterate the idol of self-exaltation and social media, the social media, god that we have elevated above everything else. In the church, the Lord is saying if you do not cut this down, you will not receive the fullness of what he has called you to. In this hour you must restore your heart to trusting in the Lord that he will cause another man to praise you and that he will be highly exalted in the earth. It’s an upside-down kingdom, friends.

If you’re called into the media, if you’re called into that area and that mountain, then God is going to take you into that mountain and he’s going to cause you to do it by compelling of a spirit to do what he’s called you to do. But you must not go, look at your likes and your comments and determine your value, your worth or the movement of God according to statistics, or be enslaved to posting every single day on social media. This is a word from the Lord. Finally, you’re going to serve in the unseen places. Lord, help us to serve in the unseen places more than we desire to serve in the same places. Father, we thank you that this is a move and that you are lighting your fire on us, that you’re protecting us. You’re protecting us from the spirit of the age by giving us fair warning to go low so that we may ascend the hill of the Lord. God, I’m asking you right now, for all those that are watching with me, that you release a fresh fire of your spirit, a fresh wind of your spirit. There’s some of you. You’re struggling, you’re wrestling through this word. That is a good thing.

The prophetic word of the Lord is not always supposed to make you feel great.

It’s supposed to make you repent before him so that he can remove what you need removed out of your life, so that you have new, fresh ears to hear and eyes to see, that your heart can be turned towards him and that he can restore to you the rewards that are supposed to be given to you eternally in heaven, so that now the things that aren’t of him will be judged by the fire, the wood hand stubble.

Now those things are removed, so that you can be set forth to do and be all that he’s created you to do and be, but, most importantly, to know his voice, to move in the power of his spirit and to be his son, his daughter, his disciple and make disciples in this hour. Thank you so much for joining me, and if you would go ahead and let us know if this word is speaking to you. And I want to challenge you to take everything that we are speaking, everything that we’re sharing, and go to the word with it. Go, take it to prayer. Don’t just take my word for it, take it before the Lord. Thank you so much for joining me again. You don’t have to burn alone.

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Thank you for listening to this episode of Burning Messengers. You don’t want to miss what’s coming next week, so if you haven’t subscribed, please do so wherever you listen to podcasts. And if this word touched your heart, please rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. To connect with Tammy, follow her on social media or visit frontlinemfireorg. You don’t have to burn alone.

August 3, 2023/by Tammie Southerland

Burning Messengers Podcast, Tammie Southerland Prophetic Writings

Prophetic Word | Surrender to Humility: A Spiritual Journey Towards Divine Connection

What if your way up was actually your way DOWN? Warning: This episode might challenge everything you know about serving God and leading in ministry. It’s time we took a hard look at the showboats and ministry machines we’ve constructed around ourselves. Yes, those platforms and performances that seem so important could actually be hindering us from truly experiencing God’s presence. It’s a hard pill to swallow but necessary if we’re to align with God’s heavenly blueprint.

It’s time we traded the hype for humility, folks. Let’s explore the imagery of the Titanic, a seemingly unsinkable ship that represents our self-made towers – and how like the Tower of Babel, God is intervening to break these structures down. Through this, we’ll uncover the need for a team ministry and the call to serve our way down in humility. This episode is not for the faint of heart, but then again, neither is following Jesus. Are you up for the challenge? Let’s journey together into a humble surrender, serving and honoring in a spirit-led, not man-led, manner.

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As a matter of fact, the Lord wants you to know that there is no up unless there is a down.

God is calling you to humble yourself.

It says in the word that the humble what will be exalted, and the least among you will be the greatest.

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The prophetic word of the Lord is not always supposed to make you feel great.

0:15:31 – Speaker 2
Thank you for listening to this episode of Burning Messengers. You don’t want to miss what’s coming next week. So if you haven’t subscribed, please do so wherever you listen to podcasts. And if this word touched your heart, please rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. To connect with Tammy, follow her on social media or visit frontlinemfire.org. You don’t have to burn alone.

July 27, 2023/by Tammie Southerland

Burning Messengers Podcast, Tammie Southerland Prophetic Writings

Reveal the Lamb: The High Calling of the Five-Fold Ministry

Unlock the true purpose of the five-fold ministry and experience a deeper connection with the divine in our latest episode. We’ve crafted this to hone your understanding of the unity and knowledge of the Son of God as explained in the profound scriptures of Ephesians 4:11-13, guaranteeing a transformation in your spiritual walk. We also explore the life-altering journey of John, the beloved one, and the power of the prophetic gifting when tied with a deep relationship with God.

Our discussion takes a reflective turn as we unveil the power and significance of the slain Lamb as revealed in the breathtaking narrative of Revelation 5. We offer insights into the mysteries of the throne room, Jesus’ intercession, and the awe-inspiring humility of our perfect God. As we navigate through this spiritual journey, we delve into the transformative experience of discovering the blueprint for unity and the fullness of God’s knowledge inherent in the five-fold ministry.

Prepare to challenge your perceptions as we delve into the high calling of the Lord, the power of surrender, and the essence of ascended intercession. By looking to Romans 8, Revelation 4, and other scriptures, we unveil how holy humility can restore your spiritual sight. We conclude our exploration with a powerful discussion on the importance of reliance on the strength of the Lord in achieving the unity and fullness that we seek. Join us on this life-changing journey as we find our way back to our first love, the Lord!

Where to dive in:

(0:00:01) – Unity and Intimacy in Ministry (7 Minutes)

We look to Ephesians 4:11-13 to understand the purpose of the five-fold ministry – to attain unity in faith and knowledge of the Son of God to maturity and the fullness of Christ. Although we have access to the fullness of Christ, we have not yet fully realized it because we have yet to know who we are. Two essential components to a new wineskin five-fold ministry reality are needed to achieve this: intimacy and knowing Jesus as the seven-fold spirit of God.

(0:07:07) – Lamb’s Revelation and Intimacy Longing (12 Minutes)

We explore the power of the five-fold ministry and its ability to bring people into a deeper knowledge and understanding of the Son of God. We discuss the significance of the book of Revelation, and how John, the beloved one, experienced a transformation from a son of thunder to the beloved. We uncover the importance of prophetic gifting and its consequences when used absent of intimacy and encounter with God. Finally, we examine the mercy of God in entrusting us with these gifts and how his mercy can call us back to a higher level.

(0:19:33) – Power and Authority of the Lamb (5 Minutes)

We examine the power and purpose of the slain Lamb as revealed in Revelation 5. We discuss how Jesus’ sacrifice intercedes for us and reveals the mysteries of the throne room. We reflect on the humility of our perfect, all powerful, and all authoritative God and the invitation to join Him in the unveiling of His love letter.

(0:24:17) – Intimacy and Consecration in Faith (17 Minutes)

As we examine the five-fold ministry, we uncover a blueprint for unity and the fullness of the knowledge of God. We look to the seven-fold spirit of God, and explore the lamp stand imagery in Matthew 25, Zechariah, Isaiah, and Daniel in Revelation. We examine the importance of intimacy with God and the consecration, purification, and continual burning of the oil on the altar. We learn that when we sit in the counsel of the Lord and we get his fullness, we put ourselves into a position to be formed into a faithful witness that may cost us our lives. We discuss how to make disciples and how to evangelize, and understand that when we present the gospel to someone, we are inviting them to lay down their lives for Christ.

(0:41:21) – Seeking the Lord’s Higher Calling (8 Minutes)

We explore the power of ascended intercession and how it allows us to encounter God in a deeper way. Through prayer and fasting, we can experience a bridal revelation that reveals the high calling of the Lord. We examine how to break out of the myopic view of ministry and be restored to our first love. We look to Romans 8, Revelation 4 and other Scripture to see how holy humility gives us back our sight. Finally, we discuss how weakness makes us a lightning rod for Heaven’s dream and reliance on the strength of the Lord is the only way to achieve the unity and fullness that we seek.

(0:49:21) – Shifting Intercession to Surrender (1 Minutes)

We explore the power of ascended intercession and how it allows us to experience a more intimate connection with God. We shift our prayers from “give me, give me, give me” to “let me have whatever it is that you want me to have” to gain a deeper understanding of God’s plan for our lives. We look at Jesus’ sacrifice and how it intercedes for us and reveals the mystery of God’s kingdom. Finally, we look to Ephesians 4:11-13 to understand the purpose of the five-fold ministry and its ability to unify our faith and knowledge of the Son of God.

About the host:

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Full Transcript

0:00:01 – Tammie Southerland
Whenever you look at prophecy in scripture, it’s a was, it is and it is to come. That’s who he is. By the way, he is the spirit of prophecy. He is the greatest intercessor you will ever know. He’s unchanging and anything we walk in in him is coming to know him because we’ve gazed on him. And so when I look at you, I should see him. We talked about this in the circle earlier. When I look at you, I see him. Whenever you walk in a five-fold reality, you should be literally exuding him.

Let me tell you something about myself. I love Jesus. That’s really it, like point-blank, it’s I could end there. I love him. I am just passionately in love with him and I have a really good reason to be, because the scriptures actually tell us he who has been forgiven much loves much, and he gave me a clean slate when I never should have had one. He literally came in and he blotted out. You know, it wasn’t just like like there’s a lot of trauma involved, but it’s crazy how trauma can turn you into a person that you never wanted to be, and so he gave me himself in exchange for trash, and so I’m in love.

And when we talk about ministry and gathering together and these kinds of things. I always just want to plumb-line it. I love the fact that we get to minister and I love all the concepts of ministry five-fold and in gatherings and strategies and all those things. But more than that, I love him and it breaks my heart sometimes when we get so far away from him and we catch up, catch our eyes on all the strategies. It literally makes me weep, it literally causes me to go to my knees and groan because he is so much more valuable than that. And so as we come together and I get to be the first night and so it’s always that awkward, you know, first session where you kind of have to break through things, but as we come together, we’ve already begun to break into what he’s called us to with the worship and the prayer and the invitation to come forward. Now we just to get to go up, now we get to encounter him. And tonight, you know, I want to talk about two things that are absolutely essential to a new wineskin five-fold ministry reality, and that is intimacy and knowing him as the seven-fold spirit of God, the fullness of who he is. And so we talk about five-fold. Right, raise your hand. We’ve had a lot of conversation about five-fold. Right, we talk about five-fold and here’s the problem. Sometimes we get a chip on our shoulders and we think that we have figured out the blueprint of how to do the thing, and now we have our wineskin, and now we’re getting the wine and everybody else just needs to catch up. Right, I’m saying we, okay. So here’s the thing. I don’t know.

Maybe a couple months ago I was just weeping before the Lord in prayer, spending time with the Lord in prayer. I am the bridge builder, by the way. So I’m not house churches, I’m not like all local church, I’m like, let me just stand in the middle and bring everybody to the throne, like, can we just go up? And so I’m in my church and we’re doing a present-stripping church, we’re doing prayer. We’re getting to three nights a week where we’re doing extended times of prayer and my heart is breaking in the prayer room over I don’t know what, and I hear the Lord say five fold is absolutely nothing without the seven-fold. Five-fold is nothing without the seven-fold. So the five-fold ministry we’re very, very familiar with right Apostles, prophets, preacher, teacher, evangelists. This is gonna be difficult to do this on this little thing. Sorry, I’m gonna do this, get me Okay. Yes, I told you I fly around. I have many things going on. That’s good. No, it’s good, okay. So five-fold ministry we’ll hit that real quick.

I want to read the passage of scripture to you and then we’re gonna talk about the seven-fold spirit of God and how they connect together and how that is actually gonna bring us into a place where we’re gonna see a move of God like we’ve never seen before, because we’re fully submitted to Him, our eyes are locked in on Him. Okay, so we know this. Ephesians 4, 11 to 13,. And he gave the apostles, prophets, evangelists, shepherds and teachers to equip the saints for the work of the ministry, for the building up of the body of Christ. Okay, that’s verses 11 and 12. That’s the one we ramble off. Okay, yes, we have to have the entire, all five. And it’s not a triangle, it’s a circle. There’s nobody hierarchying at the top of it. But this is the next verse Until we attain the unity of the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God to mature manhood or womanhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.

So what’s the purpose of the fivefold? The purpose of the fivefold is to attain unity in the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God. Okay, to know Him, to behold Him, to be captivated by Him, the knowledge of the Son of God. So the purpose of this ministry connection is to emulate together a greater knowledge of the Son of God until we attain the unity of the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God to maturity, right to grow us up into maturity and to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ. So, do we have the fullness of Christ? Yes, by the way, the answer is yes, yes and no. Have we fully realized the fullness Christ? Not yet, because we don’t know who we are. So we see both.

And anytime you look at scripture, it’s the both and it’s not that either. Or right, pia, this, this, this is Pia Joe. This conversation goes way back. The both and not that either. Or Whenever you look at prophecy in scripture, is that it’s a was, it is and it is to come. That’s who he is, by the way. He is the spirit of prophecy. He is the greatest intercessor you will ever know. He’s unchanging and anything we walk in in him is coming to know him because we’ve gazed on him. And so when I look at you, I should see him. We talked about this in the circle earlier. When I look at you, I see him. Whenever you walk in a five-fold reality, you should be literally exuding him.

It’s the problem is, we actually start to identify ourselves by our gift and as quickly as we do that, we are headed for a train wreck. Because he is all of these things and more and so the unity and the knowledge of him is coming into the maturity of encountering him and coming to know who we are in him. And the problem is, we can build something without him. Did you realize, and I’m sure you do that when we build in his giftings, absent intimacy, absent encounter, we actually begin to build the Tower of Babel? That’s what we’re building. We’re building a kingdom unto ourselves.

He gives the gifts without repentance. He gives wisdom without repentance. He imparts himself to us. He is the humblest man you will ever meet. He is the God of all creation. He is the one who could strike you dead in a moment, yet meets with you in your mess and and for some crazy reason, he entrusts us with giftings that we can use to harm ourselves and to harm others. He’ll give us a gift. Let us build all the while. I do believe there are tears being grown from heaven calling us back up higher, and he’ll do it in his mercy. He’ll wait on us in his mercy.

And so, as the Lord began to kind of unpack this, he began to take me back to what is really my favorite portion of scripture. Most people’s it’s not, it’s the whole book of Revelation. Like I just eat it. And, by the way, look at what you have done from childhood. Where have you been hungry? From childhood, I was like eight years old eating Revelation and and Ezekiel and I grew up Methodist. Btw, that’s like a 15 minute church service, especially if you’re white in a little country church. And my mom’s like what are you doing? Why are you reading those books? You have no idea. I was so hungry to know him. I wonder if there was a prophetic gifting on my life. Pay attention to those things with your kids too. Pay attention to them in your own life. And so I love the book of Revelation.

And so let’s go look at, without further conversation about building fivefold, let’s look at him. I’m gonna talk about the seventh fold, but I want to look at him. I want to look at him. I’m gonna bounce around a little bit, okay, you all right. Okay, revelation five and I saw on the right hand of him, who sat on the throne and a book written inside and on the back and sealed up the seven seals. Now, if I had, if the Lord leads me, I’ll take you to Daniel 12.

Daniel 12 actually tells you what this book is. By the way, this is the book that the man Daniel, the Jewish man Daniel, received from God and did not know what was written in it and the Lord told him to seal it up. So when you began to see John, a weep and weep and weep because no one’s found worthy. This is a Jewish man who knew that the book was sealed in the book of Daniel 12 and had not yet been opened to understand what would happen at the end of the age. So he saw the book and I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice who is worthy to open the book and break its seals, and no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth was able to open the book or look into it. And I began to weep greatly and no one was found worthy to open the book or look into it. And one of the elders said to me stop weeping, behold the lion that is from the tribe of Judah. The root of David has overcome so as to open the book and the seven seals. And I saw, between the throne, four living creatures and the elders and a lamb slain, a lamb standing, as if slain, with seven horns, seven eyes and seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth. And he came and he took the book out of the right hand of him who sat on the throne. And when he’d taken the book, the four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the lamb, each one holding a harp in a golden bowl full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints, and they sang a new song and the song was worthy.

You see the weeping and the groaning that was taking place because John was. He was an apostle, right, Talk about the apostolic. He had been formed into a witness of Christ. That couldn’t kill him. By the way, the word apostle means sent one. The word witness means martyr. The word faithful witness means faithful unto death. Jesus was a faithful witness all the way unto death. So John the apostle had seen all of these other apostolic brothers martyred and killed. He’d been boiled in oil and he could not be killed. So he finds himself on an island in exile, because they didn’t know what else to do with the beloved.

You see, this was the beloved who was once called the son of thunder. He was the one that wanted to call down fire on Samaria because they wouldn’t let him in, and Jesus called him a son of thunder. And then, all of a sudden, we find him being the beloved. He’s the one whom Jesus loved. He’s the one who Jesus told Peter to get on. Don’t worry about what’s going to happen to him, because Peter was like what about John? Is he going to be a martyr? He was like don’t you worry about that? Well, here we see the one who was called the son of thunder. Don’t worry about that.

Well, here we see John, who cannot be killed because his proximity to Christ is so strong and so beautiful. I actually believe that the witness in him pressed out death and commanded it to not touch him. And here he finds himself in the place of weeping and groaning, because there’s two things going on he’s longing for the lamb, he’s longing for his friend, and this is what he’s going to reveal to his friends, in Revelation 4, we see that he was called up higher so that things could be unveiled to him, so that he could see and hear and understand what had not yet been seen or heard or understood. You see, john didn’t care if he was an apostle. He wanted to be a son, he wanted to be a beloved, he wanted to come up higher. He was lovesick, he was longing, and in that longing something opened up to him that had not yet been open at any other point in eternity.

Listen to me Friendship with God, intimacy with God. Fivefold ministry is for the purpose of bringing the entire body of Christ into the knowledge of the Son of God. The ultimate goal of an apostolic calling is to lay down your life so that someone else can come to know the beauty of the one you have literally given your life to. I just love him. So he’s weeping. Nobody’s found worthy to open this book. I gotta go there.

Let’s look at Daniel 12. I gotta go there. You gotta see this. I’m telling you. I try to preach this message without going to Daniel 12, because I’m like y’all don’t want me to hear read a bunch of more scripture, but we’ve got to go there. He wants again. Right, who cares? Listen, she’ll never get up. I’m just going to let you read the rest of this later.

Listen to this, verse seven.

I heard a man.

Daniel heard a man. You can hear a man. He was above the waters of the river and he raised his right hand and left towards the heaven and swore by him who lives forever, that it would be a time times a half a time, as soon as they finished shattering the power of the holy people, that all of these events would be completed. As for me, I had heard but could not understand, for these words are concealed and sealed up to the end of time. So, when you’re looking at John, looking at Jesus, looking at a scroll in revelation five, he knew this story, he knew this scripture from a young man, he knew the word and he knew Daniel was not allowed to see it. Many will be purged and purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly and none of the wicked will understand. But those who have insight will understand. From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished, there will be an abomination of desolation that will be set up for 1290 days. How blessed is he who waits and attains the 1335 days. But as for you, daniel, sorry, go your own way to the end, then you will enter into the rest and rise again for your allotted portion at the end of the age.

I want to read that to you because I really want you to understand the reality, what John has gotten invited into. I Want you to understand the reality of what you are invited into when you willingly choose to fall in love with the lamb. And I want you to see I’m going to show you in just a minute. We talk about the lion of the tribe of Judah and you’re gonna get to hear my friend Whalen Henderson. I can’t wait to y’all hear whaling Whalen and I will get so stirring on the lamb and the lamb that was slain we will leave you all and just go levitate. But Whalen Said this and it’s so powerful that you don’t get the authority to roar like the lion until you’re able to identify with the slain suffering of the Lamb of God.

So in this portion of scripture told you, I fly around. You see, behold the lion that is from the tribe of Judah. The root of David has overcome as to open the book and it’s seven seals, and I saw between the throne with me, four living creatures, the elders and a lamb standing, as if slain was seven horns, seven eyes and seven spirits of God. Seven eyes and seven spirits of God sent out into the earth. And he came and took the book out of my right hand or the right hand of the him who sat on the throne.

Pause, we don’t see prophetic art, the slain lamb with seven eyes and seven horns Seated in the middle of the throne. But he is. He’s the slain lamb With seven eyes, all seeing the sevenfold spirit of God, all power and all authority, yet still fully sacrificing himself. Do you know that the blood of Jesus still cries out? We talk about Jesus the intercessor. Jesus is the greatest intercessor we will ever know. He doesn’t sit in intercession all day long saying and I pray for you, and I pray for you, and I pray for you. He may do that, but it is his blood.

The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. It is his blood that cries out from the ground, greater than the blood of able, day and night and night and day, greater than the blood of any martyr that ever went making Intercession for us. Because it says in Revelation 12 that they overcame by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony, not loving their life, even unto death. You see, it’s the blood of the lamb Testifying before the throne of God that brings you into the greatest Invitation that you could ever be invited into. And it’s not just getting a ministry, it’s not just building something. It’s come up here so that you may see what will take place after this.

Come into the revelation of the throne room. Understand that the lamb that was slain has all eyes and all power and all authority, and if you will sit in the fullness of the counsel of the Lord, you will see like he sees, you will hear like he hears, you will know what he knows. And we won’t wreck this thing in our generation. He’s worthy. You see, the book was a book of judgment. This book is a love letter to us, but what is being untapped is can only be opened by the only one that is worthy To break the seals of judgment, because he is perfect and pure and holy, without spotter, blemish, full of love. So even in his wrath he is full of love. It’s the love letter, and and so as we begin to enter into what he’s called us into in this hour, we have to get our eyes off of what we want to see and what we want to do and get our eyes on the same lamb, because we don’t get authority to roar, to correct, to fix things, to build things, without identifying with the suffering of the lamb who was slain. You see what boggles my mind I have been sitting on this for all week long it’s the humility of our God. Like I don’t, it’s mind boggling to me. Perfect and all power and all authority. It could strike me dead at any moment. Yet I’m invited to come boldly To his throne and not just receive mercy, but to be unveiled, to get to gather the mysteries of heaven. This is the invitation.

You see, we talk about intercession. We think there’s a group of 12 grandmas sitting back in the back room, or 24, 7 up in the I hop. There’s more, there’s so much more than that. And let me tell you this we’ve been missing the pieces. We’ve got 24, 7 and we pray around the clock God raised up five fold, god raised up five fold, god raised up five fold. And then we’ve got five fold. It’s like, here we are, we’re doing the five fold, but man, I, we like all that prayer, so we’ll just let our hop, do it.

But it’s supposed to come together, it’s supposed to be unified, it’s supposed to be one, because there is no true five fold flow without the seven fold spirit of God, there is no true Intercession without grabbing a hold of the prayers that we pray and going and doing them, and none of these things. We can’t disciple a generation if we’re not grabbing a hold of the wisdom of God on how to make God Together in the biggest time of crisis our world has ever known. So the purpose of the five hold is to know him, to behold him. The blueprint we’re fighting to implement Is so beautiful. When we actually beg for the wisdom of God, we actually begin to long to obtain the fullness of the knowledge of God. But if we don’t come to the knowledge of the Son of God as destructive. So I keep talking about the sevenfold. We see the seven eyes of God right. So that’s the sevenfold spirit of God.

Let’s look at Matthew 25 before I go there. So we think about a lamp stand right. We think, we think okay. So we look at the book of Revelation. Each one of the seven churches have a lamp stand right. So this is actually a menorah. Sevenfold, seven lamps.

If I had a place to show you if you’ve ever seen the seven branched lamp stand. It is not just a candlestick. And when we look at Matthew 25 and we see the parable of the virgins, they don’t have a cute little lamp, they have a lamp stand. And this lamp stand represents to them, in their culture, the sevenfold spirit of God. It is unseparable. And if we look at and we probably will in a minute Zachariah, we see this lamp stand lit. We see it in Isaiah. But when we look at the parable of the virgins in Matthew 25, we think they got a cute little lantern. Did they just trim their little wick and they go to sleep?

No, there is an utter importance on this fullness of God. We have a hard time understanding of the Trinity I’m talking about sevenfold and seven eyes and seven horns. I know, I know it’s time to mature. This is the fullness of the counsel of the Lord. It says in Acts 20 that Paul gave to them the fullness of the counsel of the Lord and then he came into persecution. So when we sit in the counsel of the Lord and we get his fullness, we actually put ourselves into a position to be formed into a faithful witness that may cost us our lives.

I’m talking to us. You want a new wine skin. You want new wine. We’re going to return to the ancient paths. We’re going to begin to truly understand what the apostate looks like. We’re going to be truly begin to understand what a being, a prophet, looks like, what it looks like to actually disciple and pastor a generation that may very well lay down their life for their faith. When we go out and we evangelize, we’re going to quit just telling people to say a sinner’s prayer, because we’re beginning to understand, because we’re sitting in the counsel of the Lord, that we’re inviting them to lay down their lives for Christ. We’re going to begin to teach people to count the cost.

I love what I can’t remember. Who was it that said earlier today talking about I’ve been in the Middle East Talking about a new way? It’s not a new way. This is the old way to do discipleship, to do evangelism. They listen in biblical times. I’m going to read you Matthew 25 in a minute.

In biblical times, when they presented the gospel to someone they knew that they could possibly die for saying yes, they were not making converts, they were making disciples that would become witnesses even unto death, and so when we look at Matthew 25, we’re seeing a full lampstand. At the time, the kingdom of heaven will be like 10 virgins we just read about at the time in Daniel 12 and Revelation 5, before the seals were open. At that time, the kingdom of heaven will be like 10 virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were foolish and five of them were wise. The foolish ones took their lamps not their cute little lamp, their sevenfold lampstand but did not take any oil with them. The wiser ones, however, took oil and jars along with their lamps, and the bridegroom was long, a long time in coming, and they became drowsy and they fell asleep. At midnight the cry rang out here’s the bridegroom, come out and meet him. Then all the virgins woke up, trimmed their lamps. The foolish ones said to the wise come and give us some of your oil. Our lamps are going out. No, they replied, there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and go buy some from yourselves. We know the story. They came, they tried to go buy oil, they came back. They couldn’t get in.

I want to make a point here. This is not a little lamp. This is the same lampstand imagery that we see in Zechariah and Isaiah and Daniel in Revelation. Everywhere we see a lamp, we see a seven branched stand. The center of that stand is the branch. It is the Lord, it’s the spirit of the sovereign Lord. Do you recognize that language? The spirit of the sovereign Lord is upon me. Right, the spirit of the sovereign Lord is the center of the branch.

And so when it says they did not have oil, it means that they did not have intimacy that had been consecrated and purified before the Lord and intimacy with him and in longing for him. It actually means that they didn’t believe that he would come. When it says they didn’t have the oil, because if you go into the Old Testament and you look into the temple system, there’s a continual burning on the altar and there’s a continual consecration and pressing and purification of the oil. This process doesn’t stop. Again. When you read the scriptures, approach them from this direction, because this is why they were written. They knew this when Jesus shared this parable.

And so the ones who are wise have consecrated a continual flow of intimacy to keep the full sevenfold lampstand burning, even after they fell drowsy and the midnight hour came. Here’s the thing it does not condemn the drowsiness, it doesn’t condemn the weariness. It says that they all fell asleep. It says that they were all virgins, which means they were all unto him in some way in their life. But the problem was that the five of them understood intimacy and they had longing in their heart for his coming. And the other ones kind of just went along their way and they said well, you know what, we’ll show up tonight, we’ll see if he comes. If he doesn’t, oh well, we’re just going to go to sleep. And it was at the midnight hour, when they least expected it, that they heard the cry of the bridegroom. You see, it says in Revelation that the spirit and the bride say come.

Another one of my favorite scriptures, and that is the reality of the heart of a virgin, the heart of one who’s longing for her bride, for bridegroom. It’s this constant groaning on the inside. It’s Romans 826. It’s the groaning, the wordless longing on the inside of a bride and a bridegroom that can’t wait to be together and see when they had oil with them they would have consecrated, purified it, prepared, it made it a reality that it would last even through the darkest hour, because they were hungry and longing and waiting on the one that they believed would come, no matter what time it was. But the other five did not.

And here’s the problem. We’re living in an hour where we think we can just kind of smooth sail it through and we can build our thing and we can show up, but we aren’t willing to consecrate ourselves before Him. And I want to tell you something. I know we’re preaching this a lot right now, but it’s true, you can’t buy my oil. I was shocked several months ago.

I was just looking at you know how Jesus flipped over the tables of the money changers and my eyes fell in the scriptures, where it says that they sold the doves. They sold the dove, they sold the dove. And Jesus come in and he flips the tables. We think about the money, we think about all the things, but Jesus said I’m sick and tired of you trying to sell my spirit in order to create intimacy or a manufacturer or something. And he’s coming in right now and he’s flipping tables everywhere we look. Yes, he’s giving us a new formula, but it’s not about the formula. It’s about the man who’s releasing from heaven consecrated oil that will cause your lamp to burn even in the darkest hour. You see, when I want to talk about the hours of darkness, it’s dark. Yes, it’s the joy of the Lord that causes us to be strengthened during the darkest hour. They couldn’t give them their oil. I was like 11 too. I’m gonna look at it.

So when we think about the lamp, sand and the seven fold spirit of God, this is what we’re thinking about. I want you to picture the seven branches, the center one, and whenever I read this, I want you to see that the center branch is the spirit of the Lord. Zachariah says that he is the center branch and there are two olive trees on each side of it. Isaiah 11, 1-2,. And the shoot will spring from the stem of Jesse and the branch from his roots and bear fruit. Listen, and we’ll bear fruit. I’m not talking about the fruit, I’m not over there in the fruit of the spirit in Galatians, but the spirit of the Lord will rest on him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and strength, the spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord.

So when you think about the seven branch lamp stand, you think about the lamps that cannot be removed from the churches. In Revelation You’re thinking about those seven flames that are burning. And this is the seven flames that are burning and without the full counsel of the Lord and the fullness of the seven flames being lit by the Lord himself. Talk about the witnesses later. The olive trees are the witnesses in Revelation. There’s something that comes from being a faithful witness that creates oil. We might go there in a minute.

The spirit of the Lord will rest on him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding. So the spirit of the Lord is the center, the spirit of wisdom and understanding. You see, these seven spirits, they’re coupled. It’s all the spirit of the Lord. They’re coupled. So wisdom and understanding, counsel and might, knowledge and the fear of the Lord. So if you take these and you separate them out, one at a time, and they’re not connected with one another, you get an imbalance. You will actually step out of the spirit of wisdom is the wisdom of God, but if you aren’t seeking him for his fullness and creating this intimacy with him when you’re living with him as an intercessor before him, you will get imbalanced and you will begin to walk in man’s wisdom and discard the wisdom of God Because you’re not asking him for understanding.

The spirit of counsel and might, not by might, not by power, but by my spirit, says the Lord. Again, zachariah, we know that very well. But before he reveals that, he’s actually revealing the sevenfold spirit of God in the lampstand. We can move in the counsel of the Lord. We can get all the strategy. That’s what the counsel of the Lord is. We get all the strategy. It says in Acts 20 that he gave the full counsel of the Lord and it cost him his life. But if we don’t get the counsel and the might, we don’t have the grit to walk out what we’re hearing and seeing.

These things have to be connected the knowledge and the fear of the Lord. It was the tree of knowledge of good and evil that caused the greatest tragedy to ever fall upon the planet Earth, because there was no fear of the Lord. There’s curiosity, right, there’s curiosity Because there was no fear of the Lord. The question was able to rise up in Eve’s heart and take root in Adam’s. You see, if we don’t have the fear of the Lord, we’re going to wreck this thing.

So the seven eyes and the sevenfold spirit of God are these aspects of his spirit that have gone out into all the Earth. You see that he’s become the message that he preaches. When we look at the slain lamb in Revelation, we see not just Jesus who’s standing there with his hands in his side. We see the man who’s the son of God, who has fully identified himself with the message that he came to the Earth and preached and he has become fully. The slain lamb that has seven eyes and seven horns is seated on the throne making intercession for us day and night, and that’s why he’s the only one worthy to release the authority and the roar, to break open seals at the end of the age and finally release justice. It’s not just judgment, justice that all the Earth has been groaning for, romans 8.

And you see, the thing is, what does that have to do with us? Everything, it’s everything to do with us. When we start to cut and separate these things, we start to divvy them out and make them this ministry or that ministry or that thing or this thing, we actually just start recreating idols and things in our own image and calling them God. And this is what he’s saying. Sevenfold is higher than fivefold, because in listen, in eternity I’m not going to be a prophet, I’m not going to be a apostle we can debate on which one I am Reima, I don’t do boxes and it turned out he I’m going to be a daughter who has locked eyes with a lover of my soul. He sees. One thing I ask, and that will I seek, is to do well with him Eternally. And if I can’t sit with him forever, it’s not worth it. Anyway, I don’t care. It’s not even about trying to gain the whole world losing my soul. For me it’s like I got to be in his lap forever. Like, if the millennial kingdom and he’s in a throne somewhere in Israel, I better be up in that throne room. I ain’t playing. I love my family. Y’all moving to Israel, that’s where it plays out. I will be with him.

I had an encounter with the Lord in 2007. Like it was insane. Like fasting prayer, it was the call. Like I got taken up. It was a bridal revelation. Like I mean, it was a hundred and some odd degrees in the stadium and my husband was like hey, hey, and my sister and I was like man, she’s marrying Jesus. Well, he was over. That was no Damon, no more, it was just Jesus. Love my husband.

But this is the calling, this is the high calling. It’s calm, calm, we say come unto me All your weary and heavy laden, I’ll give you rest. But the rest is found in him. It’s found seated with him, it’s found gazing On him. Your prayer life is greater than the list of things you need God to help you do today. Your prayer life is a place of encounter. It’s a place of mystery. It’s a place of unveiling. Listen, it says in Romans eight that the whole earth groans. All of creation groans for the unveiling of the sons of God, and the sons of God should be groaning for the unveiling of the son of God. This is the calling, this is what we were created for. If I’m not hungry, make me hungry. If I don’t want this, make me want this.

The word myopic kept coming up in our circle. Earlier, and it was several years ago, we had a house of prayer in a church in Clemson. We did all the campus things, like I’ve done all the ministry things, kids all the way up, just done it all, whatever. And I’m sitting in my house at the close of that season and the Lord says to me you’ve become myopic. I was like what does that even mean? You have a myopic view. I’m like I don’t even know what that means. He was like you can’t see beyond the hand in front of your face right now. You see, despair and discouragement had dropped on me because I took a plow and I pushed it as hard as I could to build something and it didn’t look like what I thought it was going to look like. And really, at the core of who I was, I just wanted everybody to look at Jesus.

But what it played out was a church and a prayer room and this ministry and a college ministry and we got to do youth now and we got to do kids now because we’re doing Sundays now and before I knew it I was swirling all in the doing and had lost my ability to see and had no idea. And I would lay on my face and I would weep and I would cry. I just want to be with you, I just want to be with you, I just want to be with you. I’d go at home and I’d go sit on my back porch and I’d be like I just want to be with you. And then I finally realized, when he said this, that the myopic view had come, because I had lost my first love.

I have lost the longing and the depth of intimacy, because I got into trying to establish something that he’d given me, a blueprint that nobody had seen before. It was a five-fold ministry blueprint. It was his blueprint. You see, ascended intercession is what I’m talking to us about, seated with him in heavenly places, and holy humility will restore our sight. You see, it’s the process of breaking. He will give us something and then ask us to give it back to him over and over and over again, because he doesn’t ever want us identifying with our gift. Hey, listen, if you pray for humility, if you pray that you will never do anything outside of him, if you ask for the fear of the Lord, you better get ready for your dreams to go and then he’ll raise them back up again. He loves to kill and resurrect, and kill and resurrect. I think he just really enjoys it.

Revelation 4, god’s given us back our sight and I believe that all of the revivals and you know we ride on the heels of those who went before us I’m talking about, like I realized recently I was doing my ancestry DNA and found out that I have a massive like female reformer 10 generations back. Like she stood up in Scotland and prophesied to the men and told them that they didn’t release the ones that were being persecuted from prison, that they were basically all going to hell. I mean, it was like raw stuff. They actually published her word, released the men and didn’t kill her, which was amazing. During that day, you see, we were riding on the prayers and the heels of those that went before us. When I saw that, I was shocked Like no wonder.

But if we don’t learn how to walk, if we don’t learn how to pull what he’s saying and doing from the throne, it will kill us, it will crush us. I don’t want to lose my kids and my family to ministry. That’s always been a prayer of mine. You know. We say I don’t want to gain the whole world and lose my soul. I don’t want to like, I don’t want to be the greatest revivalist to ever live, to my kids go to hell. It’s just not okay with me. So I’ll endure the crushing. So come up here and I will show you. Beholding is learned by not getting what we want. I want to say that again Beholding is learned by not getting our instantaneous miracle or our instantaneous ministry established for us.

Weakness makes you a lightning rod for Heaven’s dream. It is the strength of the Lord, not our own strength. So Revelation 4, we, most of us, know it. And after these things, I looked and behold, there was a door standing open in Heaven and the first voice I heard was the sound of a trumpet Speaking to me, saying come up here and I will show you what must take place. After these things, and immediately I was in the spirit and a throne standing in Heaven and one seated on the throne. And it begins to express what he saw and what he heard and what he encountered when he came up. I believe what the Lord is inviting us into tonight is coming up higher. He wants us to come up.

Hannah’s life was transformed through groaning for what she could not obtain on her own. Hannah started out wanting a son to show up, the rival wife who could produce, and she couldn’t. But through her weakness, her prayer changed from God give me a son to let me give you one. And this is what he’s calling us into. He’s brought us fully to a place where we’re saying no longer, hopefully, after tonight, god, just give me this ministry, just give me this thing, just let me establish this. Shifting that intercession, because that is intercession. You’re praying for it, shifting that intercession from give me, give me, give me to. I am so broken, I am so tired, I am so exhausted. Just give, let me have whatever it is that you want me to have, so that I can give it back to you.

0:49:40 – Speaker 2
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July 20, 2023/by Tammie Southerland

Burning Messengers Podcast, Tammie Southerland Prophetic Writings

Embrace Divine Tranquility Amidst Adversity

I crashed. Physically, mentally, and most notably, spiritually. Amid an overwhelming season of life, I found myself sprawled on the ground with a concussion, realizing I had pushed myself into a corner of utter exhaustion. This was the wake-up call I needed, a stark reminder that I needed to find rest – a divine rest offered through a covenant we often overlook.

So, come along on this enlightening journey as we delve into the book of Hebrews, exploring the profound dynamics of the covenant of rest. It’s about understanding Jesus’s role as the High Priest, our place in His Father’s house, and the supremacy of this covenant over the law. Through our exploration, we’ll uncover how to live above all those pesky circumstances and situations that seem beyond our control and how to uncover peace, righteousness, and joy, even when trials seem overwhelming.

Together, we’ll work through understanding the covenant of Christ, the importance of a tender heart, and the powerful essence of everlasting life. Recalling my own journey of missing the mark and finding my way back, I’ll guide you through this complex yet liberating path. Let’s bow our knees to King Jesus, release our worries and fears, and discover the divine rest we have been promised. Join me as we embark on this transformative journey of finding rest amidst chaos and living the covenant of rest.

Where to dive in:

(0:00:01) – The Covenant of Rest (14 Minutes)

Tonight, I’m talking about a covenant that we all have access to, the covenant of rest. I had heard of it before, but I didn’t fully understand until a few weeks ago. I was in the middle of a stressful and busy season, trying to do the impossible– take on all the things and keep going. I started to multitask and then I passed out. I found out later I had a concussion, and it made me realize that I can push myself physically, mentally, and emotionally but when I hit a wall spiritually, I won’t even know it until I crash. God reminded me that I had to abide in the covenant of rest and I’m still learning what that looks like.

(0:14:18) – Understanding the Covenant of Rest (14 Minutes)

Tonight, I’m exploring the book of Hebrews. We look at how Jesus, as the High Priest, has gone to prepare a place for us in His Father’s house. Through the book of Hebrews, we learn that the covenant of rest is a greater covenant than the law and the slavery of the law. We understand how to live above circumstances and situations outside of our control, and how to abide with the Lord and rise up in righteousness, peace, and joy in the midst of trial, trauma, and tribulation. This is an important transitionary generation, learning how to live on earth as it is in heaven, and how to function from a place of covenant rest.

(0:28:16) – Understanding the Covenant of Christ (5 Minutes)

We explore the covenant of rest in the book of Hebrews. We discuss how Jesus, as the High Priest, has gone to prepare a place for us in His Father’s house. Through scripture, we see how Jesus does mighty things and the disciples still don’t get it. We look at the seven-fold spirit of God and how one of these is a spirit of understanding. We examine Hebrews 4 and how God has said multiple times, “If you hear my voice, don’t harden your heart”. We consider our responsibility over our hearts and how if we don’t understand the covenant of Christ, we will fall prey to deafened ears and hardened hearts. Finally, we remind ourselves to say, “Lord, create a new heart, renewal, right spirit in me, do not let me harden.

(0:33:44) – Rest and Trust in Eternal Life (15 Minutes)

I was struggling with time and being able to do all of the things that I wanted to do. I was overwhelmed and anxious. But God reminded me that I have access to eternity – I am eternal. He asked me why I was trying to abide in the mortal when I was created immortal. We have been given access to a greater place of peace and rest. We don’t have to be limited to the anxieties of the earth. We can trust in God’s power over time and death. He has prepared a room for us in the heavenly realms, a place of covenant and rest. We must labor in His rest and trust Him to take away our anxieties, worries, and fears.

(0:48:44) – Bowing to King Jesus (1 Minutes)

I discuss the power of prayer to overcome worry, fear, anxiety, and trauma. I invite you to bow your knee to King Jesus, release your worry and fear, and come to a place of rest in His presence. We can be taken out of the fiery inferno of worldly concerns and abide in Him. Let us come together as a generation and bring healing to our land.

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Full Transcript

0:00:01 – Tammie Southerland
You can push yourself mentally, you can push yourself emotionally, but whenever you hit a wall spiritually and you’re continuing in the flesh, you won’t even know it until you crash. And then he began to teach me what I already thought I knew. Isn’t it funny how he does that? He began to teach me about a covenant that we have access to, called rest. So what I want to share with us tonight is something that I call my now testimony. So a lot of people minister from where they’ve been. They don’t know, a lot of times minister from where they are, and I think it’s important to acknowledge that. We’re in this place where we’re growing from glory to glory, and God’s teaching me something in a season about rest that I honestly don’t think I’ve ever really understood before, and I’m gonna talk to you tonight about the covenant of rest.

About four weeks ago, all the things piled up. My oldest daughter was graduating, she had her prom. My middle daughter was finishing the eighth grade graduation thing and we had recital and recital practice. And I’m working on a book and I’ve got like hard deadlines and it seemed like all in like two days. Everything piled up to the point that it was like I physically did not feel like I could handle all the things. And then, on top of that, my husband’s side of the family and my side of the family decided that they were all gonna come into town and they all needed a place to stay. And we don’t have a small family and in my ability I am like this hardcore driven person I’ve always been able to sit in the place of rest and take stress and kind of like cope with it. I would have told you that I was able to take stress and I don’t respond to it, but I’ve learned that I was coping with it and I could push it back and I could abide in the spirit and I began to cut things out, take things off my plate, right, that were stressing me out these two days. I did not have a choice. I couldn’t take anything off of my plate. I could not press pause. There was nothing that I could remove. It was all good things, it was all God things. And so in my hardcore grit and barrette, I got up and said, okay, I’m not gonna tell my parents they can’t come stay at my house. That’s just not cool, can’t do that. I’m gonna grit and barrette, I’m gonna get the upstairs of the house cleaned and then have a place for everybody to stay and we’re gonna throw the kids all in the floor on mattresses. I’m gonna do the thing. And so I started moving fast, working hard, doing the thing, and I was multitasking.

Women, you know how this goes. You’re like doing 12 things at once. You grow extra arms. All of a sudden I’m multitasking. I’m throwing something in the trash, I’m fluffing the pillows on the bench as I’m twisting to turn to go back and wipe something on the countertop. And I stood up and I hit my head and hit the floor and I was home alone and as I’m falling listen, if you guys know me like I work out and athletic I do all the things. As I’m falling, I’m going, I have no control over this. I have no control over this Boom. I could not stop myself from hitting the floor and I got knocked out. I come to 15, 20 seconds later, I’ve got blood running down on my hand. Well, right before hit the floor, I’m multitasking.

One of the 12 things I was doing was messaging my sister in law, and so as soon as I got up, I’m like I just hit my head. I got knocked out. I’m okay, we still got to do what we got to do. You know that was my response. Okay, I’m telling you all this for a reason. So I hit it hard.

The rest of the day, I did what I needed to do, got to the recital, sat down and the Lord speaks to me and he says this to me. He says you know how to rest, but you do not know how to abide in my covenant rest. And I was immediately convicted because, in the midst of all this, my character was wanting to fall too. Right, I’m getting annoyed by things don’t typically get annoyed with. I am I’m not responding the way that I would typically respond.

I get into the um, into the recital, and like all the seats are taken and there’s not enough seats for me and my family, and I’m getting into that like self righteous Christian mode, right, like we need seats and that’s not my typical character. And as it’s happening, bothering me, I’m like Lord, this is not me. And soon as I sat down, that’s what he said to me fast forward the next day. Um, I get up to get the girls ready to go. I think we had to go somewhere Get the girls ready. And I was up for 15 minutes and I sat down and I passed out and I slept for six hours and it scared me and I found out I had a concussion.

And in that process the Lord taught me you can push yourself physically, you can push yourself mentally, you can push yourself emotionally, but whenever you hit a wall spiritually and you get a concussion and you’re feeling like you’re going to be in a concussion, you’re going to be in a concussion. And then he began to teach me what I already thought I knew, and it funny how he does that. He began to teach me about a covenant that we have access to, called rest, and it’s not lack of, it’s not a lack of doing things, it’s not a lack of pain, it’s not the absence of activity, it’s a dwelling place, it’s a realm that we’re supposed to live in. And tonight I want to give you keys, and I have gone in and out of this. I’m going to tell you that this is what bothered me so much.

I’ve gone in and out of this revelation for years. I’ve learned in seasons how to abide in this place and I’ve seen God do signs of wonders and miracles when I’m abiding there, because it’s not about me, it’s about covenant with Him. But then I’ve gone out of those seasons because I have a natural bend towards being a doer. Even though I’m a Mary, I also have a lot of Martha in me and that natural bend towards being a doer will sometimes take over and I think that I’m still in rest, but I’ve actually began to get in the flesh.

And so I want to tell you this this covenant rest that we have with Him is the Ephesians 2, 6 seat. So we’re going to look at that a little bit closer. But Ephesians 2, 6 says that we’re seated with Him in heavenly places. So that seat that we sit in is above, whereas he seated above the principalities, pillars, rulers of darkness of this present age. He’s seated above those things. He’s seated in the place where we’re casting our crowns in our song right. That’s where he’s seated. It’s also where we’ve been given access to sit down with Him in this covenant, and from that place we are above the fleshly warfare as well, as we’re above demonic warfare, and I’ve talked on that before. But this is another level. And so if we can learn how to sit there, we also learn how to access oil, we learn how to access anointing, because we’re learning that he is the branch, he is the anointing, he is the oil, he is the one that brings forth signs, wonders, miracles, all of these things out of the place of covenant.

And our covenant with Him is abiding in Him. What does he say? Abide in me, and I knew, and you’ll bear much fruit. Without me You’ll do nothing, you can’t do anything. And so if we begin to connect these dots and these understandings, then we begin to understand that it’s actually a realm that we’re invited into. It’s not necessarily a knowledge, it’s an understanding of the knowledge of God, but it’s an access to a realm outside of this dirt that we live in.

And so if you think about realms of the spirit, you can think about the center realm. You’ve heard first, second, third heaven right, we’ve heard of that, but I think about it more like a circle. So the center is the throne of God, and that’s the third heaven, it’s the heavenly realm where he seated. The next outside layer of that may be like the spiritual warfare, the angelic angels, demons, the functionality of all of that, and then the outside layer would be the crust of the earth. So it’s like where we sit, we are created for dominion in the earth, but in our fall, in man’s fall we stepped out of the place of covenant rest, right, adam and Eve had dominion in rest. They had dominion over everything, including the lives of the enemy. But they fail. They had dominion over everything in the covenant with Him.

In that place of walking with Him. It says that they walk with Him in the cool of the day. That word in Genesis, where it says they walk with Him in the cool of the day in the garden, is not talking about temperature, is talking about ruach. They walk with Him in the ruach, the breath of the day. They walk with Him in the spirit, and so they lived in the realm of the spirit while they were on the earth, and so the hindrance to that was sin. That’s where they fell away, that’s where death entered. So what happened? They didn’t physically die that moment, they spiritually died and the death process began. What came with the death process? Fear, anxiety, worry, knowledge of evil. Right, it wasn’t just the knowledge of good, it was the knowledge of evil. So they took of the knowledge of evil and they stepped out of the breath, they stepped out of the place of dwelling in the realm of God, both in heaven and in earth. So they were, they dwelt in both places at once.

So if you look at scripture, when you approach scripture, always approach scripture with original intention in mind. And so the original intention of God for man was to abide in Him and he in us, and for us to rule and reign, yes, in this dirt called the earth, from intimacy with Him, in the spirit. And so when I say realms, I’m talking about realms of the spirit. I’m talking about this also being that what we can taste here, here, touch, see with our physical senses, you also have spiritual senses. So, real quick, let’s look at, before we go fully into the rest, I want us to look at Ephesians two, and again during worship, I might, lord, I feel I don’t like to preach out of the place, that I feel like I’m just tapping into this Again. I’ve been in and out of it for years, but it’s like I feel like I’ve finally learned how to sit in it, like the inner peace is incredible.

So, ephesians two, six you were dead in the trespasses and sins. Sorry, I’ve started with verse one. You were dead in the trespasses of sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. Now pay attention to that Among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body, the mind, and were, by nature, children of wrath like the rest of mankind. So stop there. Before we get to the seated place, so where we were, where we abide outside of covenant, outside of him, we get or given over to the nature of the flesh, the fallen nature.

This specifically talks about carrying out the passions and the desires of the flesh, but it’s the body, the mind and the nature of the children of wrath. Specifically, it’s living in the dirt and responding to the dirt without heavenly reality. That’s what he’s talking about. So this is what we’ve been born again or removed from. We used to be enslaved to the world and its desires and Satan, the prince of the power of the air. But God, being rich in mercy because of the great love with which he loved us even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together in Christ. By grace, you’ve been saved and raised us up with him and seated us with him in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.

So when we look at Hebrews three and four, we’re gonna look at the covenant of rest. I want you to remember, when it’s talking about Jesus as the high priest, that Jesus is seated in heavenly realms and he still has full authority and all of his work has been finished. And while you were still dead, while you were still unrestful, while you were still full of anxiety, while you were still given over to your flesh, he made a place for us. He said I’ve gone to prepare a place for you in my father’s house. There are many rooms and if this were not so, I wouldn’t have told you. He went. And he prepared a place for us while we were still sinners, because there was a greater covenant for us.

If you understand the book of Hebrews, it’s written to the fill in the blank Hebrews. They were literally the Hebrew people. Okay, so they understood old covenant, they understood the law, they understood the slavery of the law, they understood how they couldn’t fulfill it. And when we’re reading this covenant in just a minute, we’re gonna understand that he’s prepared a place for us that is in a covenant of rest, not under the yoke of slavery, not just to the law, but to the flesh. We’re not enslaved to the world, its passions, its desires or our own natural carnal tendency towards anxiety, worry, fear, rebellion, sickness, disease all of these things are encompassed in this truth. So this is how A it teaches us to pray. B it teaches us how to abide. And it teaches us also how to rise above circumstances and situations that are outside of our control, which is what most of our struggle is.

I didn’t know I had such a hard time rising outside of situations and circumstances that were outside of my control. I’ve never thought that I was that person until 35,000 things piled up on my plate all in one day and I couldn’t do anything about it, and I wanted to honestly, just go get in my hot tub and hide under the water and baptize myself about 12 times. I’m just being real. That was my day. I was like I just need to. I need to get baptized. He’s calling us to enter into this place Now.

I also want to tell you prophetically where we are. We are coming out. We’re a transitionary generation. Okay, so we’re transitioning. Every generation brings us closer to the return of the Lord. When Jesus returns and he sets up his millennial kingdom, what do you think people? How do you think people are gonna function? Are they gonna function from anxiety, worry, fear. Are they gonna function from constant punch in the air, warfaring, fighting Satan? No, they’re gonna function from this place of covenant rest. And so we’re this transitionary generation where we’re learning now on earth, as it is in heaven. We get to learn how to abide with him, and so it’s not all floating on clouds, it’s actually learning how to handle what’s going to come at us and have righteousness, peace and joy in the midst of trial, trauma and tribulation. Okay, are you following me? So learning how to live here is so important.

So if you look at I’m not gonna try to go in all of Hebrews three and four, but if you look at that all in context, it’s so important. So Hebrews three is talking about Jesus is the high priest. It’s talking to the Hebrews. He’s talking to the Hebrews who understand the priesthood. They understood that a high priest would come and serve in the temple, he would go in and he would make atonement. They understood these things. They understood that Moses and the Israelites were wandering in the wilderness. He’s going into that. He’s talking to them about the fact that the Israelites did not get to enter into the promise and the rest because of their unbelief. So I basically just summed up Hebrews three for you. So I’m gonna look at. We’re gonna kind of skip around just a little bit here because it’s important.

But covenant rest equals priesthood. Okay, listen to that. Covenant rest equals priesthood. Jesus is the high priest. We’re seated with him as priest in Kings. It says in 1 Peter we are a royal priesthood, we’re a holy nation, we’re God’s own possession. And so when we look at covenant rest, we have to also understand who we are in covenant with Christ, as priests and kings who are able to sit with him, hear what he’s saying, do what he’s doing and bring his will. How did he say pray, your kingdom come, your will be done on the earth as it is in heaven. These are all very spiritual principles. They’re not just head knowledge.

I grew up Methodist. We quoted the Lord’s prayer every single week monotonously. But there’s power in it and it’s not just talking about you saying his kingdom come. He’s talking about you sitting with him as a priest and a king, as a son and a daughter, to be able to restore what Adam and Eve lost back to the earth as it is in heaven. But if we don’t understand covenant rest, we will continuously war with the anxieties, worries, fears and circumstances around us. So it says let’s just do Hebrews seven I mean sorry, hebrews three versus seven.

Therefore, just as the Holy spirit says today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as when they provoked me, as in the day of trial and the wilderness where your fathers tried me by testing me and saw my works for 40 years. Therefore, I was angry with this generation and said they always go astray in their heart. They did not know my ways and I swore in wrath they will not enter my rest. The heading in my Bible says that peril of unbelief. Take care, brethren, that there are not, there’s not any evil in you. Believe sorry, take care, brethren, that there not be any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God, but be encouraged. But encourage one another day after day. Skip down just a little bit Verse 14,. For we have become partakers of Christ until we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end.

While it is said today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as when they provoked me. For who provoked them? When they had heard? Indeed, did not all those who came out of Egypt led by Moses? And with whom was he angry for 40 years? And was it not those who sinned, whose bodies fell in the wilderness? And whom did he swear that they would not enter his rest, but those who were disobedient? So we see that they were not able to enter because of unbelief. Remember when the scriptures were written? They were not breaks in the chapters.

Go to chapter four, verse one. Therefore, anytime you see it there for in scripture, always look above, look at the scriptures before it. Therefore, let us fear, if the promise remains of entering his rest, any one of you may seem to have come short of it. For indeed, we have the good news preached to us, just as they did also, but the word they heard they did not profit them because it was not united with faith with those who heard. For we who have believed entered that rest, just as he has said Paul’s listen, I want you to hear the language. We who believed can enter, entered. This is so important, just as he has said. It is so important. Two things Ephesians two we are seated. Hebrews four three we have entered. What did Jesus say on the cross To telesteye? It is finished. So there is a finished work in covenant with Christ, that we have been seated in and that we have entered.

What’s the problem? Why and I asked the Lord this on the way here, I was like Lord what was the problem with the Israelites? Why was it such a harsh judgment that they could not enter the rest that was promised them? And of course we see it there in scripture. It says because of their unbelief. But the Lord also said to me he said it wasn’t just because they didn’t believe. He said it’s because they could not get unbelief out of them.

Despite his cloud by day and fire by night, despite the thundering voice on the mountain, despite the law that was given to them and the second opportunity, they continuously came back into the place of a lack of trust. They did not trust Yahweh. Who was Yahweh revealed to Moses? As Do you remember, I am. So what is I am? I am that I am. I am everything you need, at any place and time. I will be fire for you, I will be a cloud for you, I will be provision for you, I will be health to you. I will be everything you need. But at the same time, they could not get the unbelief out of their DNA. So, while Moses is on the mountain. They’re creating idols because they have a better control over something that they can make themselves, something that looked like the past, something that looked like the earth. Then they could control the circumstances of fire and lightning and thundering, and a voice that came from heaven saying I am your father.

The lack of belief wasn’t just they couldn’t believe it’s, they couldn’t receive and trust that he was indeed and is I am. Are you following me? It’s as simple as believing. See, we have such a struggle, especially in American culture. We want everything to be logical, we want everything to make sense and unfortunately, that’s what leads us to build golden calves, something that, listen. They took all the provision given to them, egypt, through all the gold, all the things, and just threw it out of them and told them to get out. They’d been in bondage for 400 years. I was telling my daughter this morning that’s longer than our nations and existed.

And if you look at the state of our nation, we’re no different. We quickly become the wicked and unbelieving generation that seeks after a son. You see, unbelief will cause you to say no, I don’t believe that you’re the Messiah unless you prove it to me again and again and again. It’s not about signs, wonders and miracles. He will manifest himself with signs and wonders and miracles If you believe he is Messiah, because he wants to use you to bring healing to the earth. But the wicked and perverse generation is still so stuck in unbelief that it’s a scoffing hardness of heart that says I will not believe you are the I am until you do something for me again. But then again is not good enough. I need you to do something else for me. And it’s not about being healed, delivered and set free. It’s about you prove to me who you are again. It’s the scoffing, it’s the scoffing heart. That’s the unbelieving heart. Do you know?

Elsewhere in scripture it also says, when the disciples went out to heal the sick and bring deliverance, that there was a situation where they could not bring deliverance and the boy was brought to Jesus and Jesus’s response was these only come out by prayer and fasting. Right, they ask, why could we cast it out? These only come out by prayer and fasting. I believe fully that he was talking about. These only come out whenever you set yourself apart and you get delivered of your unbelief.

Because, over and over throughout scripture, jesus does mighty things and the disciples still don’t get it. They’re over and over again saying like whenever he calms the waves, most people don’t realize. When he’s in the boat and he calms the waves, he just fed the 5,000, like 15 minutes ago, and he’s like you didn’t understand the miracle of the loaves and the fishes. So he says to them peace, be still. You still didn’t understand. So we’ve got to begin to ask him for understanding. We’ve got to listen. If I had time I would totally go into the seven fold spirit of God and be begging God to let me teach all that. I just can’t seem to do it. But the five, the seven fold spirit of God, one of those is a spirit of understanding. So we can’t just get revelation, we got to get understanding. Ask him for understanding, I want to understand. That’s the spirit of revelation. By the way, understanding is revealing, it’s unveiling, it’s unfolding it to you.

So if you go on and continue to read, I’m just going to read a little bit more in Hebrews four. So the word that they heard didn’t profit them because they didn’t have faith, for we who have believed have entered that rest, just as he has said. As I swore in my wrath, they shall not enter my rest, although his works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he has said somewhere concerning the seventh day, and God rested on the seventh day from all his works. And again in this passage, they shall not enter my rest. Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it and those who formerly had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience, he again fixes a certain day today, saying through David, after a long time, just as he has said before, if you hear his voice, do not harden your arms. Just think about that. I’m going to keep reading how many times. I want you to count how many times he said that If you hear my voice, don’t harden your heart, for if Joshua had given them rest, he would not have spoken of another day after that. So there remains a Sabbath rest for people, for the people of God, for the one who has entered his rest and has himself also rested from his works, as God did from his. So let us be diligent to enter that rest so that no one will fall through following the same example of disobedience.

Verse 12,. We quote this out of content text all the time, for the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword dividing soul and spirit, both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart, and there is no creature hidden from his sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of him. Who we have to do? Therefore, since we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast to our confession. He talks about the High Priest who can sympathize with our weakness. Verse 16 says therefore, draw near with confidence to the throne of grace that we can receive mercy and find grace in the time of need. It is so important.

He, over and over and over again, says if you hear my voice, don’t harden your heart. If you hear my voice, don’t harden your heart. If you hear my voice, don’t harden your heart. He’s quoting the Old Testament. He’s quoting the Scriptures. I’ve called it the word that had gone forth to the Israelites. In every generation, god raises up messengers. In every generation, I promise you, if you go back and look through history, god always raises up voices. That will be his voice that will call us back to attention, call us back to repentance and to revelation of the covenant of Christ in every generation. He’s saying to this generation again if you hear my voice, don’t harden your heart.

That says to me that I have some kind of responsibility over my heart and, whether or not it gets hardened, I always have to point the finger back here. Here’s the problem. Whenever it comes to circumstances and anxieties and fears, we cannot control those things. If we do not understand, if we have unbelief and do not gain understanding in the covenant of Christ that we have and the place in which we sit, then we will fall prey to deafened ears and hardened hearts Because we will point the finger instead of at me. We will either point it at him or at them, and so, therefore, our heart will become hardened and it will become calloused Instead of saying Lord, create a new heart, renewal, right spirit in me, do not let me harden. My heart Calls me to come out of unbelief. I need to sit with you in heavenly places and abide with you, where I can rise above the circumstances.

He also says that there was a greater rest than even the Sabbath day, which is what they would have known as Hebrews being Shabbat, being the holy place of rest and peace. Shabbat means be still. Do you know that? That’s what it means. That’s what the Hebrew word for Sabbath means literally stop, and what he’s saying there is. There is a greater revelation than you just stopping all of your work. There’s more, and this is the invitation. There’s more, there’s always more, and what he’s saying is now you have access to the throne of God, where literally everything that is filled with with flesh, demonic activity and anxiety, has to stop, because you have a covenant that is so far beyond this world. You have been given access to eternity. You are actually your spirit. Man is in eternity. Did you know that you are eternal? If you are in Christ, you are eternal, not eternal later, eternal now.

But the problem is we always want to go back to the mortal. We still believe more in the mortal than we do the immortal. We believe more in the anxiety and what we see and feel around us than asking God to cause that old immortality to die with Christ. Daily I’m going to pick up my cross. That old mortality is dying with Christ Think about baptism and it’s being resurrected, and immortality, which means I am not limited to the anxieties of this earth.

But the point, your problem was time. You didn’t have enough time, and he was pointing out to me. I kept saying I don’t have time, I don’t have enough time, I don’t have it. It kept coming out of me. Lord, I don’t know how to do all this, I don’t have enough time. They’re on the way. I don’t have enough time. I got to get here, here and here all at the same time. I don’t have time, lord. How am I going to end? It was all about time. And do you know what he said to me? You are eternal, I am eternal, I live in time. Why are you trying to abide in the mortal when I created you? Immortal? It’s a different realm. It’s what Jesus won for us. It’s the greater place of rest. And so, if I don’t have to worry about time, if I know that he’s the Lord of time, he is both the Alpha and the Omega, somehow all at the same time. He is forever existed, yet he’s still Alpha and Omega. But we don’t believe that he can literally speak and everything will be still. And so, as I sat there trying to watch a dance, the Lord’s talking to me, he’s giving me a minor spanking and he’s inviting me into a covenant that I already have. God, like literal eternal rest.

If we could get this, we would also understand that death is a lie for the unbeliever. What is the greatest fear that everyone has? Death, right, terrified, don’t want it. It’s terrifying, it’s terrible. If something would happen to my kids, I don’t know what happened. We’ve been faced with that. Right, we got a miracle, but death is our greatest fear.

But if death is not true, if it’s only a shadow for the unbeliever, do we believe the gospel? If we believe the gospel, then Jesus took the sting of death and then perfect love drives out all fear, because fear has to do with torment. Then if we’re delivered from death and we live eternal life, then we’re also delivered from fear of death because we’re already in eternal life. Therefore, time itself, god, can do whatever he wants to with it If we’ll only trust him. And so even death itself cannot cause us to tremble.

I’m just re-preaching the gospel. This is our covenant, and so when we pray, it says do not pray as the Gentiles that they will be heard from many words, but go into your inner room and shut the door and pray to your father, who is in secret. He will hear you. I believe there’s a greater meaning to that. It means we don’t pray for the purpose of being heard by man, but for our many words and our many anxieties and our many fears. How many of us just pray from anxiety and pray from fear and pray from worry? How often do we pray from that place and we just go on and on and on and worry. He’s saying no, in my father’s house there are many rooms and if you had, I wouldn’t have told you this, if it weren’t true. He’s saying will you come into the room with me? I believe this is a greater thing than just going into private. It’s going into the realm where you’re called to sit in covenant, rest with him and your father, who is in secret, will hear you and he already knows what you need before you even pray it. But you only have to believe it. As long as we’re in anxiety, we’re babbling, babbling, babbling, frustrating, angry, frustrated, angry. And he loves us coming to him. He loves when we’re real to him, will listen. I get real with God. But what he’s saying is if you will, there’s a room for you. There’s a room for you in the heavenly realms when anxiety, fear and worry, circumstance, all these things literally have to stop. But it’s also says that we have to labor in his rest. What does that mean? That means we have to work at not working so hard in this realm. We have to change the way we work.

I wasn’t even going to tell anybody, but I drove. We were at the beach. I was at the beach today. I drove five hours. I’m driving five hours back, but I have no anxiety to worry. I’m supposed to be here right now. And I said I told my daughter this morning. I said it doesn’t concern me. Time means nothing to God. All we do is like he’s.

It says that all of our days were written in his book before one ever came to be. I think a Psalm 127. All of my days were written in your book before one ever came to be. So if I actually believe that he has all of my days written in his book before one ever came to be, he knows the worries, the fears, the trials, the anxieties. He knows what’s going to come at me. He also knows that if I will just ask him what is in his scroll, what is in his book for me today, and I’ll just do that and trust him that he’ll take care of everything else, why does it tell us don’t worry. Why does it tell us, don’t worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow has enough worries? We’re just like, yeah, I know that scripture, but oh my gosh, I’m so worried about tomorrow Because we don’t understand that it’s another room, it’s a different place we go.

We can’t get there from here. We have to get there from here to get there from covenant. We’ve got to change them. We’ve changed the way we’re coming and I’ve been like I said I’ve been in and out of this for several years. But since he said this to me, since he reached in and spanked my behind, it’s been like everything’s stopped and I’m in a season of my own personal life. Right now.

My kids are like growing up, their job of things are changing and graduation and college, and like so much wants to breathe, worry at me, so much wants to make me question whether or not I’ve parented well. Have I done well? Are they going to be okay or is the world going to get them? But then he begins to say no, but they’ve got. All their days are written in the book before whenever came to be.

And I send my messengers, I send my angels to attend to your children, to bring forth their, the will of God in their life. It’s just believing. And so when we come to him praying, let’s believe what we’re asking him. So Matthew 13, 21 to 23. This is the parable it says. But since he has no root, he remains only for a season.

When trouble and persecution comes because of the word, he quickly falls away. And in verse 22, the seed song among the thorns is the one who hears the word, but worries of this life and deceitfulness of wealth choke out the word and it becomes unfruitful. The worries of this world will choke this word out of you, not just what I’m speaking, but the revelation that comes. We so quickly can hear something like this, but if we don’t begin to pray it into ourselves, do you know that you need to pray for yourself? Put your hand on your own head and prophesy over yourself. Call out the word of God in yourself. That’s one of the most powerful things I ever learned. For years I used to go to all these powerful conferences and now I speak at some of them, but I don’t feel like I need a word. I need a word. I need a word. I need a word. I’m like bet me Now. It’s like don’t give me no word. I got words, he’s got. I got plenty of them, but I learned how to put my hand on my own head and call out him and me.

You take the word and you call it forth in yourself to learn how to abide in his rest. Simply doesn’t mean stopping everything. You can’t stop everything. You won’t be able to stop it. But if you can take yourself and quote Ephesians 2 6 and study into Hebrews 3 and 4 and begin to take the word and root it deeply in you and ask him do you know what repent means? It means change your mind. It means change the way you think of it. Begin to repent for the way you thought before and ask him to renew your mind every day. That’s how you labor into the rest. You work out of coming out of the flesh into the spirit. It says if you abide in the spirit, you will not be given to the desires of the flesh. So begin to pray. Lord, help me to sit in your presence, stay in your spirit.

Today a particular situation happened to me. One of my hardest things is like I actually reap a generational anxiety thing Okay, without going into details and this thing tries to come at me, all this anxiety from another person, and that is the hardest one, especially when it’s people close to you. All this tries to come at me from another person and that usually would have caused me to feel like I need to kind of help fix this person Right. I need to fix it, I need to stop it, I need to cause the bubble up to go down. And the Lord was like no, you live in the world, but not of it. You can live in this realm, but not of it. And immediately, even as this person was coming at me saying things worries, fears, all the things I literally closed my eyes and I am seated with you in heavenly places. I am in the world and not of it. I am not of it, I am not in this realm, I am not in this anxiety realm. I am seated with you. And as soon as I sat there, peace washed over me and God gave me peace. God gave me perfect words to say, and that particular situation melted like wax Because His words came out of my mouth, not because I responded with anxiety to anxiety. I responded to anxiety with the word of the Lord.

So we’re all learning this together and it’s beautiful, it’s powerful. He’s transitioning in gusts, he’s using us as transitionary people from one generation to the next. We must teach this generation how to come out of anxiety. How many of you on Instagram? This generation takes the word anxiety and wears it like a badge?

We must teach this generation how to abide in the spirit and, yes, a lot of us struggle with it. It comes at us, it is a spiritual thing, it is. It’s demonic. It is demonic, but as the day comes closer to the end of the age, we must learn how to come out of all of that. What does it say in Jeremiah 29? If you can’t run with the footmen, how are you going to run with the horses? The horses are coming. We can’t stop them, but we can rise above them. How do you think people handle persecution? They rise, they rise, they go up.

So, lord, I’m just going to pray us out. Lord, I just thank you that you are giving us a covenant. You have given us a covenant with you called rest. The blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony causes us to abide with you in a place that is not of this world. We’re literally not of this world, and right now I just speak out over those that are watching online, over those that are in the room. Peace be still.

I speak to anxiety, fear, worry, circumstantial concern and I say get out. Bow, bow to the knee, bow your knee to Jesus. King Jesus, one day every knee will bow and every tongue will confess and I just speak that right now. King Jesus is greater than worry, fear, anxiety, concern, trauma and Jesus name. Lord, I just pray right now that you would take us as a generation and pluck us out, like Zachariah 3. Pluck us out of this fiery inferno that says everything around us should be worshiped, everything but you. Fear and worry and anxiety should even be worshiped greater than you. Pluck us out, rebuke the accuser and set us in a place where we can abide in you and bring healing to our land. In Jesus name.

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